Wipe

[Earl_Listbard]

A wipe will happen, if not this time, then later... Brace yourselves, I say we get it over with now, better then later.

 

[Mordraugion]

I have been through a full character wipe summer of 05 and apart from getting my name back nothing else really mattered, even for a non trainer like me it didn't take too long to level back up but that is allowing for lower levels back then.

Really if you regard the levelling up as work or a job is it worth playing?

[Akashani]

I think a min. of 50% of the Player with High Levels will leave PlaneShift

[Krangon]

Yes I think so too! No wipe please 

[Earl_Listbard]

I think a min. of 50% of the Player with High Levels will leave PlaneShift

If people play the game only for leveling, then they should leave - wipe or not.

[Xordan]

I think a min. of 50% of the Player with High Levels will leave PlaneShift

From a developers point of view, I don't care if all of our players leave as long as the wipe was to improve the game. We'll always get more players. At the stage we're at, what matters is developers. Players matter more once we're feature complete (the basics anyway).
As I said, eventually we'll get to the point where we'll have no choice but to wipe (selectively), so it's going to happen (more than once most likely, for different areas) in future.

[Ziani]

I am in favour of a wipe for a few reasons but mainly because I feel that some chars gained high lvl's through bug abuse i.e. CW and also it will bring us all back on a level pegging which may create more RP. It would be good to do this when the new client is released.

[Pamal]

It has to be done some day this wipe, I would prefer if it would be done the time planeshift shifts to 0.4. But I am sure wipe or not wipe, i still will be a player does not matter at all. Since everybody knows the time will come.

There is nothing more or less to say about it.

greets

Pamal

[Akashani]

I think a min. of 50% of the Player with High Levels will leave PlaneShift

From a developers point of view, I don't care if all of our players leave as long as the wipe was to improve the game. We'll always get more players. At the stage we're at, what matters is developers. Players matter more once we're feature complete (the basics anyway).
As I said, eventually we'll get to the point where we'll have no choice but to wipe (selectively), so it's going to happen (more than once most likely, for different areas) in future.

If it is to improve the game most of the people will unterstand this .. i think

[Liadan]

I think a min. of 50% of the Player with High Levels will leave PlaneShift

From a developers point of view, I don't care if all of our players leave as long as the wipe was to improve the game. We'll always get more players. At the stage we're at, what matters is developers. Players matter more once we're feature complete (the basics anyway).
As I said, eventually we'll get to the point where we'll have no choice but to wipe (selectively), so it's going to happen (more than once most likely, for different areas) in future.

Here we have a problem.  If the developers don't care if all the players go, then I guess former players such has PSTruth will have more ammo and more supporters for giving 'balanced' opinions of PlaneShift.  If you drive away players there will be a few who decide to get back at PlaneShift's development team by deterring possible new players.

Even though the players have not put half as much sweat and blood into the game as the developers have, they still have spent time and effort in the game, testing it for the developers. Testing their creation and reporting back on it.  So a few happened to have max'd out a couple stats or skills, that doesn't necessarily make them powerlevellers. It just means that they rather walk the talk and talk the talk in their roleplaying.  What I guess I'm saying is that there's two halves to this game and whether or not you agree with me, both have to be there for this game to continue on its current path.

If we wanted a cold-blooded reaction from the development team, we would play other games. What makes PlaneShift different, in my opinion, is that it has a human quality to it.  The players interact with the development team and the development team interacts with the players (hopefully). By saying we're going to wipe the game regardless of what you think or what you say, its sending a negative vibe to the players saying well, we really like you, but your opinions aren't worth a dime to us. If that's so, why would we continue to play a game, where our opinions don't matter?

[shorty13]

* shorty13 wonders if anyone read his idea in his post

[neko kyouran]

i voted yes.

on the condition that xillix isn't allow to violate the forums rules by making wipe threads

I honestly think the best time for a wipe would during the upgrade to the next upcoming release.  and before that release, the "save my character name" thingy we had from MB to CB could be used.

[Xordan]

Here we have a problem.  If the developers don't care if all the players go, then I guess former players such has PSTruth will have more ammo and more supporters for giving 'balanced' opinions of PlaneShift.  If you drive away players there will be a few who decide to get back at PlaneShift's development team by deterring possible new players.

Even though the players have not put half as much sweat and blood into the game as the developers have, they still have spent time and effort in the game, testing it for the developers. Testing their creation and reporting back on it.  So a few happened to have max'd out a couple stats or skills, that doesn't necessarily make them powerlevellers. It just means that they rather walk the talk and talk the talk in their roleplaying.  What I guess I'm saying is that there's two halves to this game and whether or not you agree with me, both have to be there for this game to continue on its current path.

If we wanted a cold-blooded reaction from the development team, we would play other games. What makes PlaneShift different, in my opinion, is that it has a human quality to it.  The players interact with the development team and the development team interacts with the players (hopefully). By saying we're going to wipe the game regardless of what you think or what you say, its sending a negative vibe to the players saying well, we really like you, but your opinions aren't worth a dime to us. If that's so, why would we continue to play a game, where our opinions don't matter?

But the things is, we're developing a game and we're not even feature complete yet. If we don't ever wipe then the game suffers because there's loads of bad data stuck around in the db, causing strange problems and making it slower (plus it means we have to spend 3x as long working on compatibility between old and new systems). If we do wipe then players complain that we don't care about them. I choose to wipe for the good of the game, not (well almost ) because I hate players and want them to suffer.

[neko kyouran]

But the things is, we're developing a game and we're not even feature complete yet. If we don't ever wipe then the game suffers because there's loads of bad data stuck around in the db, causing strange problems and making it slower. If we do wipe then players complain that we don't care about them. I choose to wipe for the good of the game, not (well almost ) because I hate players and want them to suffer.

my menki still has a menki for a pet.  I love bad data!

[Velh Krome]

Please don't wipe, all the time that we spent in ps will be lost.  Shocked
PLEASE DON'T WIPE ! Sad

I voted NO!
because i invested month of my life time to make Akashani what she is NOW!!!

I may have spent more time building up what I got now, but it wouldnt be wasted at all - I actually dont care about a wipe, neither do I feel buggered by any inequality, nor would I have an idea what would be the points that make a wipe required.
People say "Ps needs it!" - hm, what for? And why? For some guys can catch up better with older powerlevelers? Or is there economy sorted out better since ever?

it will bring us all back on a level pegging which may create more RP

Why would it? Powerlevelers will haste off to camp mobs, what would make them to change all of a sudden?

* closes his eyes and votes *
Oops, its a "Yes"

PS:
Peeg got a very interesting point there, that should be carefully considered before going for a wipe. Of course that could also do for covering/delaying bugs related to higher levels, like spells etc;)