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Do you favor a wipe of quest information?

Yes.
125 (81.7%)
No.
28 (18.3%)

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Myriel

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2008, 08:27:40 pm »
No...I'm just half through with the winch quests (I think...) Don't want to start over...at least not until I'm finished with them  :P

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2008, 08:33:50 pm »
Several people are stuck in strange ways in quests. Do you the players believe it is time to start fresh?

personaly, Yes. got 10 quests stucks so far.  :surrender: and im not the only one  ;)
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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2008, 08:37:08 pm »
We got almost all the quests logged in our forums, so they will be completed quickly again anyway, so I have many great items twice and more times, so I can sell them and make a huge lot of money, so I can.. uhm.. can.. er.. I WILL BE RICH!

Huh.. whatever, as long as the questsystem is fixed fundamentally and on base of such an improved system future quests will be expected to be most bugfree, why not?
To not wipe faction-points of course would be nonsense.
Leaving Winch-access untouched I would welcome greatly! People not doing all the quests again because they say they already have Winch access would do better to think twice, since many quests (also the ones to come) require others to be completed previously, as well as certain Winch-quests give fancy rewards. But for people having current plots played out in that region wont have to pause it until access regained.

Although I could sort all issues and stucks of my quests.. for the ones who could not: Yes.

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2008, 08:38:59 pm »
Quest wipe? Sure..
I think the factions should go too..



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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2008, 08:44:14 pm »
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Leaving Winch-access untouched I would welcome greatly!

I wouldn't. Many quests have pre-requisites, including the way you got into the Winch. It would probably create as many problems as it solves to leave it untouched.

Besides, maybe this time around someone will discover the mysterious Third Way into the winch :)

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2008, 08:52:34 pm »
YES

I've between 10 and 30 quests bugged. And since one year, i still can't get into the winch by any ways.

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2008, 09:17:38 pm »

Huh.. whatever, as long as the questsystem is fixed fundamentally and on base of such an improved system future quests will be expected to be most bugfree, why not?

This is unrealistic, many many are fixed, but bugs happen. We cannot tell what is not working anymore because many of the current problems were caused in earlier releases. We should see better results here.

The only thing that will need to finish it off in a superior way is more people reporting through the bug tracker the things that npcs should recognize that they do not atm.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2008, 09:27:38 pm by Xillix Queen of Fools »

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2008, 09:32:50 pm »
What? My char spent months doing all those quests and now I have to do them all over again?! No! Absolutely not!  >:(
;) it's better then a full char wipe  :sorcerer:
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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2008, 09:38:21 pm »
I concur.  Easy way to test the quests and make sure they work is to do them over again without creating another alt.

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2008, 09:39:34 pm »
Jeraphon, possible technical complications of course were way more important than inconveniences I mentioned.

Xillix, let me explain what I mean, since I am aware of perfection is unrealistic:
If the system itself would be as buggy as it was the days when quests involving same NPC, blocked other quests with the same NPC, doing a wipe would be plain stupid. If nowadays the system has improved significantly I would agree with it.
Reading now about players having bugged quests, is it sure it's due to old data and same trouble can be (@Xillix: almost) excluded? (Yes, it's a rethorical question)

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2008, 09:46:41 pm »
Wipe!!!

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2008, 10:02:03 pm »
OK, a quest wipe good! \\o// I am stuck in a quest about the emporium, and I lost 2 times the quest item :oops: because of the wrong sentence.... :o :-\
 :offtopic: A bit wishlist, but could be nice if we say a wrong sentence, NPC could return the quest item, since it's really frustrating to need an alt  ::)
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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2008, 10:02:37 pm »
JXillix, let me explain what I mean, since I am aware of perfection is unrealistic:
If the system itself would be as buggy as it was the days when quests involving same NPC, blocked other quests with the same NPC, doing a wipe would be plain stupid. If nowadays the system has improved significantly I would agree with it.
Reading now about players having bugged quests, is it sure it's due to old data and same trouble can be (@Xillix: almost) excluded? (Yes, it's a rethorical question)

I would assume a wipe would not be done until after the next release, which will include my changes to how npc responses are stored and how npcs would still speak to you in one quest even if you are doing one for them already (which they do not now). This will avoid most (I can not guaranty all :)) of the cases that caused conflicting quests. It will not solve the conflicts that already exist though. For that you will have to restart the quests, which you cannot always do (for one-time only quests). GMs could discard your quests one by one. I bet all GMs vote for a quest wipe though :)

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2008, 10:47:29 pm »
Me ponders redoing a certain .... quest, from a certain dwarven woman at the Bronze Door ramp.....       :detective:

Maybe..... hmmm.....

i suppose so...

And  :offtopic: about the 3rd way in the Winch: i know what it is, i just haven't found how to get it. A friend got it - she doesn't know how  ;D .

Anyways, i suppose that would be ~one~ way to get the letter for the Winch boss, again..... I lost it on my new char. No, not my dog, the Vigisimi ate it.

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2008, 11:41:35 am »
I voted "yes", no surprise there.  If it's going to make bug testing and development easier, I think it's a no brainer.  It would be nice if winch access could be left untouched (One can always have hope), but if it is better to wipe that too, then so be it.

Me ponders redoing a certain .... quest, from a certain dwarven woman at the Bronze Door ramp.....       :detective:

Yeah, I was thinking of that one too.  Knowing what I know now, I wonder how many of the run for three day quests, I wouldn't do again.
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