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Do you favor a wipe of quest information?

Yes.
125 (81.7%)
No.
28 (18.3%)

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Jeraphon

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2008, 10:39:07 pm »
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If it's going to make bug testing and development easier, I think it's a no brainer.

It'll do much more than that. Remember the mantra of the settings department: "Quest fixes aren't retroactive." You get an instance of a quest as soon as you start it, and it stays even if the quest is changed. So when some players get stuck for whatever reason, and we create a way to fix it, it's fixed for anyone who takes it afterward.

With a quest wipe, you'll have full access to all the updated versions. And boy howdy are there a lot. We're creeping up on the big 2-0-0 for quests completable by any given PC. (For all you guilds out there with quest spoiler lists: you'll see just how outdated your lists are.)  :detective:

So yes, it's a lot easier to test a bug in a quest when it's the quest everyone has, not the one you took last year.

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2008, 07:08:22 am »
As a new character on a recent account I see no need for a quest wipe. I voted no.

For the record my old account also voted no for a different reason.

Discount my vote if you like but I suspect I am not the only one to vote with different accounts.

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2008, 02:14:08 pm »
Even if that means to reach the Winch again... starting over may be the only solution for several chars already.

But: Until today I haven't met any char who made the 3rd (merchants) way... You are still sure it exists?

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2008, 04:04:47 pm »
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But: Until today I haven't met any char who made the 3rd (merchants) way... You are still sure it exists?

Positive. I've had it tested. There are even hints in game as to who gives the quest.  :detective:

But why have only a rare few made the third way? Simple. It was the third one to be created. By that time, most people had completed the first way, and a handful caught on to the second way. They had also created a culture of telling new players exactly how to get into the winch using what was known. Hopefully now, with things such as factions in the mix, people can start playing to their character. Which group of people do I want to help to get in the winch? (As opposed to: I'll just do this way cause it's quicker, or I'll just do this way cause I know exactly what's involved.)

That'll happen sooner or later anyway. After all, if there's a full wipe that would imply a quest wipe. We might quest wipe first, though. I am glad to see many players are in favour of at least quest wiping.

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2008, 05:06:47 pm »
Yeah, I'm all for a quest wipe.  Provided all known quest bugs are fixed and those conflict issues are resolved, this seems to be a good time to do it.  Recently with an alt I did 8 bronze door quests at once and didn't have a problem..   \\o//  Doing those one at a time is crazy.

I don't think wiping quest items is necessary.  I certainly wouldn't want to lose some of those glyphs.  It will also give us an opportunity to get other glyphs in cases where we were offered a choice, and they're not available anywhere else.   :devil:

As for quest items being dropped, that is simple...just enable NPC's to buy them for a few tria.  If it's not worth the trip, some newbie can profit off of picking them up.  As for those in between items (ones to be given to another NPC to continue the quest) but because something happened and we are stuck with those items, it'll be nice to have them as a backup in case they are lost the second time around.  After that just give them to a gm to be destroyed.

As for factions, yes, I think those should be wiped too.  Are they even being used for anything yet?  And here's the big question (hopefully this can be disclosed) do factions currently determine whether one can get certain quests?   ???  If not, how close are we to that and would a quest wipe actually help with that?  If it's reasonably close, I'd say wait for that to be in place.
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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2008, 02:38:38 am »
I approve.  :thumbup:

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2008, 02:41:10 am »
I want a quest wipe too :D
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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2008, 02:34:01 pm »
I'm pro questwipe

because some of the quests had bugs and must be closed unfinished :(..
That's the reason why i say YES to the questwipe  :-X

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2008, 10:28:53 pm »
I'm pro questwipe

because some of the quests had bugs and must be closed unfinished :(..
That's the reason why i say YES to the questwipe  :-X

i think so, too.

Yes for a quest wipe. thanks for the poll.
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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2008, 11:28:48 pm »
And i think so too,

Yes for the (quest)wipe

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #55 on: February 16, 2008, 08:27:53 am »
It seems this thread is proving what people think about the quests. Those people in favor of a quest wipe but not a full wipe appear to consider quests as no more than trifles with no impact on their character's history. Let's do have a lobotomy and we can blissfully redo the quests with no sense of deja vu.

Doing the quests ought to be more than playing the game it should also be part of playing your character. I applaud those people who refuse to do quests because it would be out of character. I would also urge them to develop a different character who would do these favors. Consistency is good but variety is the spice of life.

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2008, 09:48:17 am »
Yes, a questwipe would be a good thought. Having several that appear unfinishable at this time, and also not beeing able to throw them out is... unpleasant

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2008, 11:06:26 am »
Talk about split personality, My player side says No, I don't want to do all those quests again.  :thumbdown:

My testing side says Yes, wipe it so we can clear some old bugs off and concentrate on finding and sorting new bugs  :thumbup:

Um,Err, Um, Err...   Testing wins, go for the wipe.  Maybe I'll actually beat someone to reporting a bug for a change.
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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2008, 11:22:37 am »
It seems this thread is proving what people think about the quests. Those people in favor of a quest wipe but not a full wipe appear to consider quests as no more than trifles with no impact on their character's history. Let's do have a lobotomy and we can blissfully redo the quests with no sense of deja vu.

Talk about split personality, My player side says No, I don't want to do all those quests again.  :thumbdown:

These quotes seem to suggest that many people do not understand what a quest wipe means (the first person quoted seems to do though): your quest history will be gone, but in general there is no need to do ALL quests over again. There may be some (to get into the winch, prerequisites for later quests your character did not do yet, some to get factions, if those are reset), but most quests you have finished before you do not have to do at all. Your character already did them and got rewards for them. The only thing is that you-the-player, does not see them listed as completed quests. Unless you want to exploit the situation and get high rewards from one time quests again, just do as the first quote says, and let your character decide what quests to do next.

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Re: Quest wipe.
« Reply #59 on: February 16, 2008, 12:00:58 pm »
wiping the uncompleted: YES
wiping the completed: NO

* Enrion can't vote :lol: