Do enkies purr?

[Garile]

In another thread I read a post about someone getting annoyed by enkidukai purring. They aren't cats after all so why do they always purr?

Now I can imagine that if you notice something like that and you really feel it is wrong that it can annoy you. But it also raises the question why it is wrong to purr when you play an enki.

I mean sure I can't garuntee they do, but can you garuntee that they dont? After all enkies have catheads and cattails and even the enki legs are cat inspired so is it wrong to expect there behavior to have some catlike tendencies aswell?

now the description on them is rather vague on this. The only thing pointing that they may behave different from cats is the fact that they live in packs and that is more wolflike behavior. But seeing we don't know how much this is influenced by civilization I wonder how strong an arguement that is.

thinking it over I felt I should atleast ask for the otherside seeing I am going towards the side that purring is a nice addition to act less human and personally i haven't seen anything to really dispute that they are not catlike while their whole appearance screams cat in my eyes.

If you feel it is wrong to purr please don't just use the argument that we don't know if they pur or not seeing I think we all know that,, but I don't really feel that is a good reason to call it wrong roleplaying.

[ThomPhoenix]

Wolflike behaviour? What do lions do then?

[Myriel]

I'd like them to be able to purr. After all, they _are_ catlike. And purring doesn't have to mean they are uncivilised or half animals or anything. Perhaps it's just as natural for them as for a human to smile?

[Shadowmeph]

lol  Pur maybe it isn't exactly like a cat but hey why not? If a bird can Bark like a dog why can't enkidukai Pur?

[Garile]

Lions have prides

Differance is that it is normally only one male with several females and cubs. Not to mention they are about the only big cats that even do that.

So that would seem to show that mentally Enkidukai are somewhat different inclined then our cats seeing they are pretty loner oriented instead of group animals, but it could be they come from lionlike prides and "civilization" made them see the benefits of not chasing away the male cubs as they once did. It isn't a very strong argument as I already said but it is one often used

[Suno_Regin]

Enkidukai are catlike, yes, but people are taking that a little too far. They also, as far as I can see by their art, don't have paws, but people like to think they do because they're catlike. I don't remember Enkidukai NPC's purring when I ask them for a quest, so I don't think they do.

[Raa]

They also, as far as I can see by their art, don't have paws, but people like to think they do because they're catlike.

Their feet are paws.

The only thing pointing that they may behave different from cats is the fact that they live in packs and that is more wolflike behavior. But seeing we don't know how much this is influenced by civilization I wonder how strong an arguement that is.

In the wild, cats do form into packs. Stray cats often live near or with each other.

I would assume that Enkidukai would purr, from a biological view, since they have many physical similarities with cats. If they have heads like cats, they are probably able to purr. Just makes sense.

[Garile]

@Suno
 
hmm have to agree with you on the paws part. Only the feet would be paws as the hands don't have any padding and clear fingers are visible so they are definately hands.

However that you didn't encounter it in quests yet could simply mean that A. the devs aren't sure themselves yet or B. They only purr in normally private situations like when cuddling with a loved one or lazying around feeling very content. I don't think you really encounter situations like that in quests and if they do purr I don't realy see them using it simply as a thanks.


@Raa

Well it isn't really my argument and not sure about the stray cats and all, but just the whole Alpha male and such is definately with a wolfpack in mind I think or perhaps an apegroup. I personally felt it was a good argument to show that enkidukai mentally maybe aren't as catlike as they look.

[Zakrei]

I don't remember Enkidukai NPC's purring when I ask them for a quest, so I don't think they do.

Why should they if you just ask them for a quest ?
Have you tried giving them presents, like fish ? Or giving them a nice back massage ?
That would be a reason for a heartily purr ;-)

[Suno_Regin]

Well most of the Enkidukai-cat enthusiasts purr just about whenever they feel like it. Until I see an NPC purring, I'm not buying it.

[Wren]

For what it's worth, the common belief that cats only purr when content is actually inaccurate - they're known to purr when they've been injured or they're sick, for example, because the vibration of the purr has some pretty serious health benefits. 

So if Enkidukai do indeed purr, I'd guess they would use it in more situations than just contentment, and people in Yliakum wouldn't automatically think "Happy Enkidukai!" when they hear a purr - they might be as likely to think "Does he have a cold?  Maaaaybe I should sit over here instead."

[Suno_Regin]

Why are we so bent on making Enkidukai into cats? They're catlike, fine, but does it need to get more complicated than that? I don't want to make an Enkidukai and be weird because I never purr.

[Jeraphon]

They also, as far as I can see by their art, don't have paws, but people like to think they do because they're catlike.

Their arms most certainly end in hands, but enkidukai refer to their hands as paws. Either term is fine.

[Eila]

I don't remember Enkidukai NPC's purring when I ask them for a quest, so I don't think they do.

You are assuming that a form of humanoid can't purr, but they can. The predisposition of a creature like a Menki or Fenki may well have them purring. I know at least a few that will purr on command if fed a few fishies. Since begging for a quest is 'a demand' or imposition then i hardly expect an Enkidukai to begin purring at that point.

Are we to start dictating what other races may or may not do based on what isn't part of the settings?
I've seen enough Enkis purring to be convinced that they in fact do purr.
Thats good enough for me. I'ld further suggest that its a common trait.

Its quite far fetched to suggest that they don't when you consider there are psuedo-demons running around that supposedly blow dark smoke out their nostrils and ears + consume souls, all of which is based on forum posts and not submitted by the settings team.

[Garile]

Bent on making them cats? No but I'm definately not bent on making them human either. Seeing they look like cats exploring the purr is one of the first places to look if you don't want them to act like humans with fur.