Do enkies purr?

[Prolix]

Hey if they are going to purr why not have hairballs too, will they go all snaky if you feed them catnip? Why are there still rats in Ojaveda are the enkies playing with their food?

As the person who made the comment that inspired this thread, it was just a throw away taunt meant to indicate there is plenty of incongruous role plays going on apparently within the settings and other things that people might object to are not that big a deal. Purring is not that big a deal to me.

I think I'll start a new dwarf character and insist I am not a dwarf but rather an Xacha midget. I think it will be great fun to fly into a rage whenever someone calls me a dwarf. 

[Liadan]

i thought they were humanoids....so why can't they have tendencies to their other DNA? I mean there's nothing wrong with some purring and some not. Its like how some immigrants wish to keep their native tongue and culture, but others don't want to. Similar concept...

[Suno_Regin]

Because they don't actually have cat DNA, they just resemble cats. Cats/kittens don't really exist according to the higher-ups.

[Liadan]

blah...couldn't you just say that purring is part of their native tongue? i mean technically, PS doesn't have cats, so there's nothing to compare the purring to pets. that's just us bringing in our prejudices to the game.

[Raa]

Because they don't actually have cat DNA, they just resemble cats. Cats/kittens don't really exist according to the higher-ups.

They don't have "human" DNA either.

Doesn't Enkien (the Enkidukai language) consist of purrs? That's good evidence there.

[Myriel]

Hey if they are going to purr why not have hairballs too?

That's simple: Because Enkidukai are intelligent and able to skin and cook their food before eating it. And I doubt that they're licking their fur, since they have proper hands and can use a sponge for washing

[Kaerli]

Well, isn't the Enkien R pronounced using a purring sound anyhow?

[Myriel]

yes, I think it is.

[Socius Rockus]

http://pswiki.xordan.com/index.php/Enkidukai_Language/Pronunciation [ps wiki, my source]

'RR' is the equivalent of a cat's purr. Since this is unpronounceable by a human, a combination of a schwa sound as in the English 'about' and an alveolar trill is like the Spanish 'perro' - or if you can, try doing it with an Uvular trill, as in the French pronunciation of 'Paris'.

So when ever they say Grrensholo or some thing else with a double R the enkidukai purr

EDIT: I mean like gosh, when you play an enkidukai haven't you once thought of even looking at the language?
 

Double edit: Bringing DNA into the discussion xD, show me the Enkidukai DNA strings they lack to purr in comparison to the CAt DNA strings that make them purr

[Zan]

I don't think it's an issue of whether or not Enkidukai can purr. It's about if they should or not. I also don't call rolling your r's purring, that's an accent. Purring is an emotional expression for cats.

Personally I get that very catlike behavior of Enki roleplay can be over the top. If you're constantly purring, pouncing other people or going completely animalistic when Catnip or fish is brought into the picture .. then you're not doing the Enkidukai race much good since you're acting more like a silly animal than an intelligent race.

I think it's perfectly fine to for enkidukai to purr but it strikes me as a sign of complete relaxation, pleasure and safety ... not something you'd do in a crowded tavern or anywhere else in public.

As for the catnip-like behavior .. now that I do have issues with. Enkidukai are not instinct driven animals that go berserk when they smell or see catnip. They're an intelligent race with full control over their behavior and emotions. Even when there is something they like nearby. The only exception I can see here are children or mature enkis with mental retardation.

[Socius Rockus]

I also don't call rolling your r's purring, that's an accent. Purring is an emotional expression for cats.

For 'cats' it's emotional, for Enkidukai it's language-ional
again:

'RR' is the equivalent of a cat's purr. Since this is unpronounceable by a human, a combination of a schwa sound as in the English 'about' and an alveolar trill is like the Spanish 'perro' - or if you can, try doing it with an Uvular trill, as in the French pronunciation of 'Paris'.

So a 'human' or non-enkidukai would have to mimick the RR with a rolling rrrrr, but the Enkidukai's purr

* Socius Rockus purrs

This would be very strange for an enkidukai to do as she/he is only saying rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr all the time, but hey some people have other ticks, like an annoying tapping leg
 

[Zan]

I still think they should be judged as separate things.

Using language accents like "How arre you today?"

and

* Zan purrs softly while playing with his tail.

They are two entirely different things in my eyes. Sure you can both call them purring but you shouldn't juggle them together under the same subject like people are doing in this thread. The accent purr is just like the dwarven accent of some dwarven roleplayers. Some people like it, some don't. Some characters have it, some don't. It's no big deal.

The latter purring is a behavior that comes from animals. It's not in your language or words, it's showing a state of being. While I think that Enkidukai can do this, they are also an intelligent enough race to control it. If they start purring uncontrolably with every mildly pleasant experience they get ... I won't see them as anything more intelligent than the simpleminded fool that grins at everyone and everything all day long. Or the well-known housecat.

My bottom line is, roleplay to your heart's desire but keep it inside the settings and also don't go overboard. Extremes are never good positions to take.

[Socius Rockus]

First of all, the RR isn't just an accent (it may of course) but it's for their language <-- clickie which has many words with 'RR' in it, the famous Grrensholo ect.
Enkidukai would do it as G-'purr'-ensholo and non-enkidukai would make it sound like G-'rolling r'-ensholo

Second, if you look at purring as something you do to act out an emotion, like happiness. Then it would most likely be a discussion for the settings team first, because 'purring' would have a certain cultural standard on when to and when not to purr. I don't support players letting their enkidukai purr everywhere they go
If Purring is somewhat related to emotions I think an Enkidukai purr would be translated to non-enkidukais an "Aaaah" or "Ooooh", like when a dwarf drinks a beer after a hard day in the mines Then it wouldn't be that weird to see an Enkidukai just purring and it's more controlled then animal behavior. But I'm not settings
(It could also just be that a purring Enkidukai just brags about something she/he can and others don't  )

I agree with purring going overboard, but everything going overboard is bad
That's why I think NPC's aren't purring when they give you a quest Purring in front of a stranger...
 

[Prolix]

As far as I know the wiki language projects are mostly player driven and do not constitute official settings material. This may be wrong but has the settings team given them their stamp of official inclusion? I could very well go in and start writing up the Kran language, fill it full of sibilants and rasping noises, maybe a few african tongue clicks and claim it is official because it exists. Just because some players who like to purr have filled the language with purring noises does not mean enkidukai really do purr.

It would be nice if some member (Xillix?, Jeraphon?) of the settings team would appear and give an indication of what their thoughts are. It may be they are divided as well which is why they have not stepped in but it is more likely that they endorse purring or at least do not object to it. I am certain they are busy and hope they do not consider this some kind of summons

[Garile]

*looks for her summon Dev glyph but somehow can't find it*

hmm I know of the enki language but not quite sure if it is an offically endorsed one or not. Personally I am playing an enki and I do have her purr now and then, but definately not as a greeting or when given a fish or something. I think I can count the people who have heard her purr on one hand.

I am just wondering if it is correct use of the settings or not.  know many are for it, but there are also people who don't like it and useally better to simply ask then have one group annoyed at the other group if perhaps this isn't nececary.