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Honestly, do you believe that PlaneShift's focus on Role-playing is costing it players?

Yes.
20 (12.3%)
No.
54 (33.1%)
I think the communtity should try to be more welcoming.
41 (25.2%)
To hell with anyone who does not role play.
36 (22.1%)
Snorks.
12 (7.4%)

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Earl_Listbard

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #135 on: May 08, 2008, 04:13:51 pm »
The lack of conflict in the game is what drives away players.

Theres no problem with shoving rp down people's throats.

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #136 on: May 08, 2008, 04:25:46 pm »
Lack of conflict?!?

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #137 on: May 08, 2008, 04:27:56 pm »
He means IC lack of conflict I believe.

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #138 on: May 08, 2008, 04:31:59 pm »
Indeed, im not going to go into it though the devs are already working on it so no point in debating such.

And yes we have plenty of drama in ooc ps hehe...

I just don't see whats wrong with the current system of 'rp or gtfo' I've met many people who joined ps with an ooc mind set, but after hearing that we all rp here they conformed without a fuss.

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #139 on: May 08, 2008, 04:52:55 pm »
Well, if you really wanted to get in peoples faces over it, Earl, I would bet the non-rp'ers could bring more people here who would tell you to stop RP'ing and gtfo if you don't like it.  As PS gets better and better, that may very well happen.  Co-existence will be needed so you don't lose the environment you love.  Other games do it with special RP servers, and I can say that on many of those servers, non-RP'ers go there all the time to grief the RP'ers, and it totally sucks for the environment.  They can do mass bannings, and probably should and will, but there will limits that will only let you go so far with that.

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #140 on: May 08, 2008, 05:04:12 pm »
If i understand Draklar's post, PS was not originally a RP-only game. This "focus" has come from players who have claimed some ownership of the game and, from the tone of this thread, are a little overeager in their zeal for RP. I know that those players that do absolutely nothing but level grind are likely to burn out quickly and don't add much to the community per se. I see the far other end of the spectrum as worse. While the player that doesn't interact with anybody isn't adding anything, the extremely vocal, condescending, nitpicking strict-RPers are much more visible and give the game a undeserved reputation. In the end, PS is a game. This is not RL, but an escape from it for people to enjoy.

If you cannot possibly tolerate people in-game that are actually exploring game mechanics and not sitting in the tavern RPing  the entire time they are in-game, then why are you here instead of on a mud or irc? There is room for everyone here from the so-called PLers to the so-called strict-RPers. I am not trying to start, yet another, fight here. I am seriously interested in hearing why the strict-RPers in the community are drawn to PS. From some of the posts I have seen where someone "interrupted" their RP, it feels like some would be happy with typing Shakespeare into their chat window in a prearranged exchange. Why do you need a very nice 3D world with game mechanics to do this? Should there be a RP server that contains no NPCs, no game mechanics, and 50 or so Taverns around Hyldaa plaza?

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #141 on: May 08, 2008, 05:05:01 pm »
Well, if you really wanted to get in peoples faces over it, Earl, I would bet the non-rp'ers could bring more people here who would tell you to stop RP'ing and gtfo if you don't like it.  As PS gets better and better, that may very well happen.  Co-existence will be needed so you don't lose the environment you love.  Other games do it with special RP servers, and I can say that on many of those servers, non-RP'ers go there all the time to grief the RP'ers, and it totally sucks for the environment.  They can do mass bannings, and probably should and will, but there will limits that will only let you go so far with that.

You underestimate the strength of a game master. As polls on this very forum have proven, zergs don't win.

Frankly though, you don't have to be an in depth rper to be in ps, just so long as you are not running around spouting. "lul omg fish card!"

I find 100% of the people who actually show an interest in playing ps have no problem rping. Its a single package deal really.

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #142 on: May 08, 2008, 06:02:12 pm »
I think that people see RP as being some sort of work, being much more big deal than it really has to be. For me, it reinforces the experience even if people just use simple emotes or simple phrases here and there when in the public channel. Its funny sometimes because you see people arguing about it, shouting about it OOC, complaining about how they have to be in character, et cetera. Which always seems to take a lot more effort than just typing /me laughs and walks away...

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #143 on: May 08, 2008, 11:19:08 pm »
The playerbase is small, yes... But that's not always a bad thing. The game being RP oriented, we drive off many people who just want to play, not RP (Which is why Blizz sets up 4 types of servers: Normal, PvP, RP, RPPvP). To me, though... that's a godsend. I'd much rather roleplay than listen to whiny little 12 year olds, who are going through the fussies because of puberty, complain and moan for some reason or  another (Which is why I NEVER seek parties in Guild Wars... My henchies and heroes are smarter AND don't whine! :o ). The fact that PS is a full RP world is what I loved (maybe still) about it.

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #144 on: May 10, 2008, 02:44:15 am »
Not only I want more players but I think that for a free game's dev team, the numbers are more important than for a commercial one. I don't think devs will have growing stamina with a less count by the day.

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #145 on: May 10, 2008, 05:53:07 am »
I don’t generally post on forums but a few friends suggested I do so and say what I think...  There are many reasons why people play Planeshift..

1. roleplay: which is the way it should be
2. Powerleveling: which should be used to back up your roleplay
3. Socializing: Used by all to speak OOC or IC

each person has their own experience as Waoknie stated earlier.. It all depends on what the player wants to do.. There are many options in the game and many guilds to help enhance the options.

1. evil
2. good
3.nuetral

then there is many ways to play these factions such as..

1. roguish ways
2. lawful ways
3. healers
4. hunters
5. guides
6. information gatherers
7. secret and hidden guilds inside other guilds
8. hermits
9. fighters
10. etc etc etc etc

With all these options we can create a playing field that works well.. Yes many options have limits as to what degree one can travel in roleplay.. One thing I found to work rather well.. is find a new person and introduce roleplay to them at a very young stage in planeshift.. drawing someone into a roleplay situation usually brings them back wanting more and more..

a few suggestions would be a post of guilds and what they have to offer.. that would help many find a home and a place to fit in.. forcing roleplay is not a good idea.. it will only make the non-compliant fight more against it.. I find that introducing roleplay in guild chat, everyplace your character decides to stop, and thru your actions makes people look..

I once played a rogue in the Outlaws.. many know me.. many hate me.. flame me if you wish.. So many take actions of roleplay as OOC acts against them.. just because I played a evil character doesn’t mean I am evil nor do I act like it in real life.. I played my character as a rogue would in the planeshift world.. you take the OOC out and you’ll have a much happier environment.. If you don’t like my roleplay just walk away.. simple enough..

The power of the old ways still flows thru my veins.. Thanks brother Waoknie for keeping it alive as well

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #146 on: May 11, 2008, 12:24:05 am »
The way I play the game, I both roleplay and strive to level up...frankly, I think that's the best way to fully enjoy the game, and I don't see the point in saying "Both or gtfo!" to the power-levelers or the strict roleplayers, nor do I see the point in them forcing their way of playing on me. This game is supposed to be enjoyable for everyone, is it not?

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #147 on: May 11, 2008, 06:32:35 am »
1. evil
2. good
3.nuetral

I would like to see this implemented in a game somewhere and be the only deciding factor in alignment.  It has never made sense to me that an entire population would be totally aligned the same way.

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #148 on: May 11, 2008, 07:15:09 am »
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I would like to see this implemented in a game somewhere and be the only deciding factor in alignment.  It has never made sense to me that an entire population would be totally aligned the same way.

What is this -- and what would be the only deciding factor in alignment? The traditional alignment system has been debated many times on these forums, but what you are saying right there is not clear...?

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Re: Roleplaying Focus
« Reply #149 on: May 11, 2008, 07:50:10 am »
1. evil
2. good
3.nuetral

I would like to see this implemented in a game somewhere and be the only deciding factor in alignment.  It has never made sense to me that an entire population would be totally aligned the same way.
I'm not too sure I understand what you mean.  There is already a faction system in PlaneShift that is like the old DnD alignments but expanded.