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Mathy Stockington

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Bored
« on: June 01, 2008, 01:42:45 am »
I have heard many players say they are bored of PlaneShift. Some stay on IRC and still chat with their friends. Some still look at the forums to stay in touch. Many have left completely. I am sure real life makes it harder to play for some, but some just say “I am bored” and do not play anymore. All we have to do is look at the R.I.P. section to see all the people who have left as evidence of this.


My question is why are you bored?

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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2008, 02:03:31 am »
I think this is typical of any on-line game. As long as there are new challenges to confront there is something to hold the attention. There are the hard core role players who can always make it up as they go along to keep themselves interested but other people find that a little too abstract. You can grind all day but that does not really accomplish much either.

I figure the average life span of a game is about a year and a half. Some games do not rate that long and others extend their lives by constantly adding new stuff in effect re-inventing themselves over and over. Part of the problem with PS is that it isn't yet. It is here and it is playable but it is far from complete. I am not saying this as a criticism, just a pertinent fact. It is sort of like that T4C game I keep mentioning. the first year I played there was a small island that got bigger a couple of times. It was open beta. After that they had a closed alpha to test the second island and other new content while they marketed the first island as a complete game, selling server licenses with the promise of new content. People came and went some came back as new content was released. This place just feels familiar to me.

But to answer your question more directly, I am bored because I am have a boring personality and ritalin came around too late to turn me into a good little zombie. :)

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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2008, 10:50:36 am »
The problem is how most people approach these games. The expect to be entertained. The content of a game may be as large as in WoW but in the end it is limited. And as most people just rush through the content...
But if you really want long time fun in a MMORPG you shouldn't ask what the game can do for you but what you can do for the game. This is also known as roleplaying. :)
« Last Edit: June 01, 2008, 11:01:38 am by Kaityra »

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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2008, 02:38:55 pm »
They are bored because at the moment the game is little more than a 3D presentation of Runescape - only alot better. This is not an insult - it's just a fact. The limited time and such allowed by the dev team to develope planeshift means that there are many more complete and playable games out there that are just as free.

You enter the game and unless you can find roleplay all the time, you will spend most of your time just mining, or killing mobs, endlessly - and even that has no interaction.
Games now usually have combat interaction at least - eg: you don't simple sit there and watch your character run through a stock animation until the mosnter is dead, you have "actions"  or "powers" etc that you can click on which create a certain effect, be it a debuff or whatever. For instance if you train in the way of an axe in a game, you come up with a skill line which give you abilities to do with your weapon. people usually get incredibly bored with mining, crafting etc because after a while you feel like an enibriated carrot, sitting ther clicking at the ground for so long.

the inbalances in the game, the lack of updated loot tables, the lack of gameplay. The quests will only keep people going for so long. I hate to compare Profesionally developed games and such to an indie developer and I by no means want to draw much of a comparison - I just want to make  small point about gameplay.
The new hype on Age of Conan is so large because of the innovative real time combat which doesn't make use of stock animation, click attack buttons etc. This is why so many people turn towards real time things. Shadowbane too has, to an extent but it's not nearly as big, the more interactive game play. The gear creation is not a big thing and what the game focuses on is the gameplay itself, allowing players to mold the world they stay in. Look at games like "savage: the battle for newerth" which is an old game now, it's a realtime FPS/3rd person combat game with stategy elements and such, but what has kept so many players invoved in it is the aspect of skill based gameplay, this is why alot of games like that retain a decent number of fans after other games have moved on and developed. Core gameplay aspect.

I in no way want to turn planeshift into an fps or whatever, I don't want to insult it and I know full well that the development team are part time and are not a company of dedicated people getting paid etc.
What I was trying to do there was to answer your qestion. I hope it helps.



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Re: Bored
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2008, 05:35:40 pm »
Boredom is the symptom of an uninteresting mind, fixing that is beyond the capabilities of the developers.

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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2008, 06:32:07 pm »
Boredom is the symptom of an uninteresting mind, fixing that is beyond the capabilities of the developers.

That's a broad statement. A mind must be stimulated to produce an effect.

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Re: Bored
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2008, 07:17:10 pm »
Then stimulate it yourself, Ichaas. There are thousand ways in PS to achieve that.

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2008, 08:06:56 pm »
Ok then let’s be more specific. Is it that ‘old friends’ have left and you find your rp is dead? It is that you have done all the quests and you find yourself with nothing to do? Maybe you have leveled as far you can go and now you are bored. Or do you just need something new?

Again why are you bored?


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Re: Bored
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2008, 08:42:41 pm »
It stands to reason that if people who are bored leave, there is no one here to answer your question mathy.

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Re: Bored
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2008, 08:53:29 pm »
Shadowbane too has,



Shadowbane? No way.
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2008, 09:07:51 pm »
Boredom is the symptom of an uninteresting mind, fixing that is beyond the capabilities of the developers.

That's a broad statement. A mind must be stimulated to produce an effect.

For once ;) I have to agree with the devs (sorry, just joking, I *do* appreciate all your hard work!). But back to the point: I feel sorry for you Ichaas, but I fear that is exactly the problem stated in an earlier post. Players nowadays aren't used to use their own imagination anymore. There *is* plenty of room for your own roleplay and you do not need anything else but your imagination. Hell, that is exactly what people do in the storylines section!
All I can say to everyone who feels bored: Use your imagination! You need nothing more!

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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2008, 10:51:38 pm »
I never would have imagined this! but then sometimes my imagination gets stuck in a rut and I wind up skinning the same cat a thousand times or more.

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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2008, 11:55:03 pm »
the problem lies in that some like to play the hero too fast... and an RP plot is shot to bits in no time at all... leaving little to RP... rather than letting the little side lines build and the detail of it grow out and make a simple plot... a great RP.
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2008, 01:21:23 am »
PS is the only MMORPG I play.. I've only tried REGNUM 'cause many of my 'gangmembers' went there. I didn't found Regnum as good as PS.

Therefore I have not enough experience or knowledge to compare PS with any other. My only part on this thread will be my experience as a 'typical' PS player.
I think most of the issue resides on limitations that have been gradually implanted IG. I don't wish to repeat it all over.. so if you already have read my opinion on this, jump to next poster.. but as long as the topic keeps leaking in here, I will say it again.
Very little amount things 'happen' to my character nowdays. It cannot be attacked, robbed, killed, etc.. if there is no prior 'agreement' for it. Almost all 'actions' have been limited to RP but it didn't help much in enhancing my overall gaming experience.
I would love to see the protective 'bubble' our chars reside in to disappear. Let the old ways revive a bit.. It did more for RP than the limitations are doing atm. The best RP situations I've been into evolved from such actions that are no longer possible.

I used to squeeze RL time for the game. In expectation of the rush for the actions we were used to confront on every session. Now I've sadly became an occasional player.

Yes, the game is a bit more time consuming than before. We used to have more P'lers but also more RPers too.. Some may find the following expression a bit harsh: 'The fairytopia world had it's chance and failed..' but I think it did.. IMO, our chars should be exposed to more 'actions' from other players.


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Re: Bored
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2008, 01:28:21 am »
What were people permitted to do to each other before that they are not allowed to do now?