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Re: Bored
« Reply #75 on: June 06, 2008, 10:27:46 am »
Totally agree, Zorbels, that's exactly what happened to me. You can get too much of one thing. So you go and do something else for a while and then come back when your mind had a chance to focus on something else and maybe you got inspired by something you saw/read/heared in the meantime. Or you just miss the fun you've had... cause from my experience that's what you remember more than the boring patches.

I took a break from the game for a month cause I just couldn't think of anything to do in the game. Blank mind = bored. Took a break, came back refreshed and I'm enjoying it again. Happens with all my hobbies over and over again. I might drop them for a while, then get back to them again at a later stage. I think it's totally natural that you need to do/see something else for a while. The same with work - why would you go on vacation otherwise if not for the need to get away from it for a while and do and/or see something else for a couple of days?

Personally I think you need a break from pretty much everything every once in a while. I sure do.

Of course, sometimes you just "outgrow" something. I don't still enjoy all the things I did like 5 years ago. A natural process as well. As you get older, gain new experiences, meet new people who introduce you to new stuff, other things becomre more important or fascinating... it all changes you in some way so that at one point things you once liked now just bore you. It's got nothing to do with the thing you're bored with but just with being human. My opinion.
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Re: Bored
« Reply #76 on: June 06, 2008, 12:22:33 pm »
Personally, I'm bored of PlaneShift because my posse... clique... whatever-it's-called has moved on. Also because I'm sick of it. It was great at first, when I was a n00b, since there were so many new places to explore and so many new players and characters to meet. And I tend to do new things I've never done before rather than doing the same thing over and over again. It was only the attraction of the unknown that kept me going. But now that I've seen and done pretty much everything, it's kind of pointless to continue on, because once you begin doing something constantly without stopping, it's natural for humans to pick out the little errors (example: annoying old people). I used to never give a darn for any little mistake or glitch or whatever, but now I've changed into some gripy geezer. Like, every minute, I just want to complain about something I see IG.

Okay, can't continue this, I think i'm going to vomit....

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Re: Bored
« Reply #77 on: June 06, 2008, 04:59:24 pm »
yeah, what he said

done all the quests, tried all the skills, read all the books, etc

Well these days i only pop in once in a while to help some noobs by giving them some tria and/or weapons but in all honesty PS is a rather limited world. Once you've explored everything from Ojaveda to the Eagle Bronze Doors and gained access to the hidden area's through quests and read all the books in the library, magic shop, death realm and the Blackflame temple, it gets a bit repetative. Half of the players online are mining for platinum, a whole bunch is silently crafting, some noobs are shouting 'give me money plz' or 'lol how do u play diz game' and a handful of people are RP'ing tough characters in the tavern (yeah yeah /me glares back ...).

The game mechanics are limited too. Once you've mastered one weapon skill, you've basically mastered them all. Except for slight variations in damage, range and attack speed there isn't much that sets them apart. Creatures are either too easy or very hard. And a 'high risk, no reward' policy doesn't work: noone bothers to hunt cutthroats to get leather armor. And getting killed repeatedly by Dlayo Gladiators or Onyx Daggers for a 1:1000000000 chance to get a quarterstaff or a helmet doesn't seem to appeal either. At maxed fighting skill levels however its the only thing left to do unless you enjoy PvP (wich in PS means learn to time your attack, nothing more).

Crafting has its limitations too: takes very very long and once you are good you will never be able to make more money then it cost to train to get there. Regrettably the gap between looted weapon damage and that of crafted weapons is so big that an experienced player will rarely use any looted stuff. Cooking is a novelty amongst the crafts, but recipes are still very flawed (i'll make notes wich ones do not work), there are a LOT of missing ingredients, there's limited trainers for baking and economically it's even less plausible then weapon making from a IC point of view (I trained up to 100 cooking to see what it did for around 2 million i think, my Carp Delight doesn't even fetch 2 circles each). But lets not discuss the economics too much, all money goes to training, crafted weapons and guildhouses. Only the tria for the crafted weapons stay in the game, and since you allways need to spend more then you will earn with crafting, that is retroactive spending too. Once you can make a Q300 weapon it kinda gets repetative too.

And magic is so very bugged that it became my major annoyance of the game. Only around half of the 35 or so spells I have in my spellbook even have an effect (mechanics i mean, animation is a bonus), half of those are bugged in some way. There's a few spells that have a lot of use and most of those are overpowered (strength, life infusion, energy arrow, taste of death). And if there's a realms system, it should stand to reason that realm 5 spells are better then lower realms. Yet IG realm 1 or 2 spells seem to work the best overall. Plus there's no way to arm yourself against magic, so bug users that got CW or DW maxed will be able to kill everyone and everything from a distance. In fact magic training above lvl 20 is only usefull to gain effectiveness for the spells you allready have, there is no big challenge in getting to realm 4 and finding out you get a spell that does nothing, except several animations to show off.

Of course there should be random factors that make the game more fun. Events. I've participated in 16 registered GM events (a couple unregistered ones before they could be registered) and countless player events. Lately -last few months- however all GM's seem to be hiding, at least at EU hours whenever I look to see if there are any in game, and players rarely organise anything these days except the occasional tournament. I've played several other MMO's and even the simplest GM event can make the gameplay sooo much better. The game needs a RP infusion to spice things up and GM's are the key for that IMHO.

In other words, I think the game has a lot of potential, but even more flaws at the moment. I'm not at a point that i'm thinking of abandoning the game as some others seem to be, but gameplay is very limited as i tried to explain above. And with limited gameplay inevitably comes limited interest (to quote: "been there, done that"). Anyways i'll be looking forward to new content and improvements, as are many I conclude from the reactions in this thread. Keep up the good work.

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Re: Bored
« Reply #78 on: June 06, 2008, 05:03:49 pm »
Hmmm... I think coming back after being gone for a while is difficult and can be a barrier more than a way to rekindle one's love for the game. In a way, one expects more excitement, I guess. Also, one expects to see familiar faces but that doesn't happen all the time and then all one has is a red buddy list. And that's depressing...

But then the biggest barrier, just like for the player who hasn't gone anywhere and is still bored, is to try something new. It starts with how you play. In my time in PS I must have created a good 10+ characters. Most of them didn't stick but thinking about their stories and interests kept me busy. I think the problem arises when the player doesn't know what to do with their character. When they have no purpose, they depend on other players and development to make things interesting for them.

If you're bored, think about where your character is at. What has your character done lately? Why? What do they need? If the answer is nothing, then perhaps it's time to create a new character and start fresh. But if you can find a purpose, whether big or small, then try it. You'll see how fast that BL of yours will sprout with greenies once you get your new RP on the road. It gets harder the older the player is, I think. The barrier is bigger and finding something new is more difficult. That's why creating new characters is always a good alternative. I tend to come back to my old characters after a while, with more ideas to try, or simply because I miss them.

The bottom line is that boredom lies in the way you look at things mostly. You can't expect everything to entertain you while you do nothing. If you wanna do that, watch tv. Interactivity is a two way street.


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Re: Bored
« Reply #79 on: June 06, 2008, 06:05:52 pm »
I too have become a little bored, perhaps even a little frustrated with the game. I don't really know why to be honest, it seems to have just crept up on me.

I also have the depressing mass "red buddy list" syndrome. I've tried creating new characters, but it doesn't feel the same anymore. I know there are probably just as many people playing, but i just don't hang out at the platinum mine to meet them all, even though i met a huge portion of good friends and roleplayers at the old magic shop gold mine. Come to think of it, i really miss the atmosphere there. Is it a similar situation at the new mines? People singing and roleplaying while they grind away?

One other point however, I don't take exception to the slow pace of development for my boredom troubles, i accept that development in PS is always going to be slower. My trick has in the past been to take a month off and come back with renewed enthusiasm, but the good feelings last only a short while before the boredom sets in again.

I also agree with much of what Quq has said, especially about the Dlayo glads. What's the point of a monster than no-one can take on with a realistic chance of winning, without the need to exploit bugs (arrow from the walls anyone?) to defeat them.

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Re: Bored
« Reply #80 on: June 06, 2008, 06:57:40 pm »
Hmmm.
bored cause...
all i actually get to do is hack rogues.
and mine now and then.
to up skills.
to hack more rogues.
cause...magic is useless.
cause...none of the other interesting skills work.
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Re: Bored
« Reply #81 on: June 06, 2008, 07:26:19 pm »
I returned a few months ago, after being gone for about three centuries, to find a red buddy list. The game was still fun. (yes, i did want to see my friends again.) I found out that one of them still plays, but has totally forgotten me and only found one mention of me in his chat log. And there's another of my friends who hasn't forgotten me, but doesn't play very much. But the game never ceased being fun. Apart from when i went mining. Or stayed in ojadeva.
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Re: Bored
« Reply #82 on: June 06, 2008, 07:28:56 pm »
If the purpose of your character is to level up, once you max whatever you want, you have no reason to keep playing.

If the purpose of your character is to chat with friends, should your friends ever leave PS, you will have no reason to keep playing.

If the purpose of your character is defined by roleplay (i.e. the character's personality and their choices in their life), you can always find something to do.

Likewise, the more the players do this, the less boredom there will be. But if all players do is hack rogues, mine and train until they are maxed and bored, little can we do to prevent such a fate.


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Re: Bored
« Reply #83 on: June 06, 2008, 07:29:19 pm »
I can understand how it can get boring doing the same over and over again. Though role playing is always new and different. Is role playing ever boring to you the players?
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« Reply #84 on: June 06, 2008, 07:50:12 pm »
I get bored of the role playing -- or rather I have never found much of it that seemed interesting to me. I get bored of the grind too although it is easier to repetitiously mouse and keystroke mindlessly than type coherently, possibly incoherent, blather. I stick around because I like to contribute to the overall development of the game, posting bugs, questioning methodologies and whatever.

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Re: Bored
« Reply #85 on: June 06, 2008, 07:57:36 pm »
Perfect solution:

http://www.planeshift.it/recruitment.html

Come help us build more crafts, more areas, more creatures, better AI, more quests, more animations, more rewarding game play!

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Re: Bored
« Reply #86 on: June 06, 2008, 10:59:58 pm »
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Re: Bored
« Reply #87 on: June 06, 2008, 11:01:27 pm »
I can understand how it can get boring doing the same over and over again. Though role playing is always new and different. Is role playing ever boring to you the players?

Roleplaying is not new and different. It's the same old roleplay all the friggen time. Or it's overdone and all the elitists strike it down. It's like... "omg sum dood in a blak cloak omg he castin DW on me omg i's ded naow we fite bak n nobdy nvr winz cause da playerz dont wana loooze." Or, "raagh we killed ur babies naow we gunna taek ova ur government." OR, "i may b a normal lookin nab but I'z secretly got special (settins-braekin) powas that maek me glow n stoof and ttly pwn teh ebil guyz."

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Re: Bored
« Reply #88 on: June 06, 2008, 11:02:29 pm »
Quote from: Mathy Stalkington
Though role playing is always new and different. Is role playing ever boring to you the players?

::| Heck NO! At least not me. That is one of the reasons I can't play like I used too. I start out small with my RP's and before you know it it is six hours later and I am just getting to the climax of my RP. Of course I can't leave it! I must finish it! If I gave into that my daughter would never eat or have her needs meet. Come to think of it neither would I!

I think if a person gets bored of RPing they need to step it up a  notch or take a break. Rping is supposed to be fun. If it isn't anymore then it is time to make a new friend circle (let go of the old friends circle because people move on) and jump into the RP's they are having. You might be surprised how refreshing it is to play with new people. If that doesn't work for you then perhaps a break is in order and you can take a step back and get a fresh prospective on where your character is going in PlaneShift and how to help the further prosper in the world of Yliakum.

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Oh and by the way, miss you in game.

I miss you to very much! I always loved your RP's. Perhaps this summer I can find some time to get active in game again.
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Roleplaying is not new and different. It's the same old roleplay all the friggen time.

You know I hear this alot. To much. One word for that quote. Motivation.

Why don't you do something about it? (I don't just mean you Raa :) ) Why not create something original if the same ol' stuff bores you? It only takes a different idea and perhaps different people to play with rather than the same people you play with all the time. Different people means different reactions. That means they won't act the same way as your friends who you have come to know and pretty much have a good idea of what their reaction will be. It also means the perhaps these new friends you have made will have fresh ideas. Not everyone in PlaneShift RP's the same things. Talk to the vertrain players in this game, I bet they could help out with the same ol' boring stuff and help you spice it up. You just have to have motivation.
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Re: Bored
« Reply #89 on: June 06, 2008, 11:11:13 pm »
id love to get involved in a big RP but best i ever seem to find is sup-ing ales in the tavern, you must all be on different time-zones to me :P