My first complaint ever

[Fletchbren]

Hello, It has been a very long time since I have played Planeshift and let my start by saying that I am really impressed with the accomplishments its made so far. However I'm noticing a trend in game play that is really starting to upset me. I'm talking about the amount of Power-gaming and Meta-gaming present within the game. More specifically, the 24/7 days a week grinding of skills so that players can become "Uber" for PvP. Now some of this doesn't bother me, for instance I don't mind if someone is killing things all day because at least you could in some way RP that. But what I see enrages me and I think is an insult to what Planeshift stands for. What I see is people, usually experienced players, going to an area for lower levels, hording swarms of clackers/rats/gobles and any weak enemy they can find. Then sitting down in that swarm in order to level their armor skills. Ask yourself this: Would your character in the game ever do anything like that? This is probably the worst example of power-gaming I have seen and is the kind of stuff you see in WoW. I mean why are trepors, and tefusangs, and ulbernauts even in the game if the experienced players who are meant to fight them spend half there time sleeping with rats and clackers... Its a joke, plain and simple. I used to play Planeshift to escape from all the "lol pwnage" and "Uber lewt". But now I see it constantly in this game. Even in the tavern I see people having OOC duels with each other. Its seems that everyone just wants to build up their character to become "Godlike" get the best "loot" and then "Pwn noobs in PvP"...Its really upsetting me, especially when its happening in one of my favorite true role playing games. I just think that people need to take a bigger step in enforcing RP on the server and crack down more on Power gaming. Also Ive seen the word noob used more than ever lately! When I played I don't recall ever hearing people say "Shut up noob" or "Your just a noob". But now its something I hear often. What happened to the game I used to play where people were always helpful to the newcomers and polite to them? What happened to the game where people sought challenging opponents to find and battle? What happened to the game where tolerance and kindness where what I got in the tavern rather than the word "noob" yelled at me...What happened?

~Fletch

P.S: Sorry about the tangent...

[Kaityra]

What happened?

What happens to all games that grow in "popularity"...it is adapted to the mainstream.

[Lanarel]

What happened?

What happens to all games that grow in "popularity"...it is adapted to the mainstream.

No it is not. It is just not ready yet. Things as not being able to train armor on things that do no harm would solve this, but just is not implemented yet. Feel free to join the team and do so

[Mathy Stockington]

My suggestion is if you like role play then role play. I hope the more people who role play the less nonsense we will have in game. Though I have to agree with you on one point, today's players are much less helpful and friendly then they were years back. I think that is why those people are gone. It is a different game now. Not better, just different.

Welcome back to PlaneShift. Maybe you can help teach us how the game should be played.

[Kaityra]

What happened?

What happens to all games that grow in "popularity"...it is adapted to the mainstream.

No it is not. It is just not ready yet. Things as not being able to train armor on things that do no harm would solve this, but just is not implemented yet. Feel free to join the team and do so

Lanarel, I think you got me wrong here. I'm not saying that the devs adapt this game to the mainstream but the community. In the end it is the community that is the game. I'm really sorry for not stating it more clearly, it was really not meant as a criticism of the devs.

[Zan]

Roleplay lies in our hands, don't complain .. go out there and make it different!

You are not alone.

[Prolix]

Then sitting down in that swarm in order to level their armor skills.

If you see someone doing that it is considered an abuse of the system and you can report them to a GM.

Noob is an officially sanctioned roleplay word as shown in The Nooby Song thread. It probably wasn't meant to be but that is essentially the effect.

The tavern is not a good place for dueling, but then again alcohol and weapons equals trouble so it is logical. They need a bouncer is all, perhaps someone Levrus has trained to cast a temporary stasis spell. Give the naughty customers a time out.

[Kaityra]

Roleplay lies in our hands, don't complain .. go out there and make it different!

You are not alone.

Unfortunately it doesn't feel that way. But you are right about the hands and such...

[Arerano]

Roleplaying, most unfortunately, doesn't seem to be PlaneShift's focus. More and more who are attracted by "leveling" are coming making the actual roleplayers going to be some small marginal group.

Votes! Aye, since RolePlayers seem to be outnumbered by Levelers, those too will get the game more into the "mainstream direction".
[With "RolePlayers" and "Levelers", I mean people tending to be more on the one or the other side, since many do both..]

The only thing you, apparently, can do, is searching for those who share your interests.. eg: RolePlaying. But don't leave out the nebwies, I've found many treasures among them.. they needed a mere "introduction to RPing".. someone who helped them to get into it.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

noob is NOT an officially sanctioned role play word prolix.

[Quq Leque]

Lock the thread please before this turns into yet another 'RP versus PL' discussions that seem to spawn every few weeks.

Yes its an RPg,
yes there are game mechanics,
yes you should only level certain skills and up to point that corresponds to the role you are playing,
yes everyone seems to want to be either 'the best' or RP's skills that are available mechanically
yes people tend to max every skill (group) thus having a character description that doesnt fit the skills they mechanically have obtained
yes its a beta, just wait for the wipe

[Ichaas]

Someone is ranking themselves up... for PVP? In this game? Are they deranged?

[zorbels]

Roleplay lies in our hands, don't complain .. go out there and make it different!

You are not alone.

Amen to that!

Seriously I don't understand why the RPer's get so worked up about the people who don't RP? Do you see the players who play this game to only level up and leave complaining about to many RPer's? No, because they don't care. So why should the RPer's? Isn't it just easier to ignore them and enjoy what you love about this game, the roleplay? (If your heavily involved in RP I would think you wouldn't even notice those who are not RPing) Isn't it easier to promote Rping and show by example with your Rp's how it is done? I would think if it is super exciting it might even catch the odd ulber leveler interest and they might want to join. Wouldn't that be a much more positive out come rather than chasing away the players because they don't join the game for what you love about it, rather they join because of what they love about it?

Seriously why is this such an issue?

[Prolix]

It is the tyranny of the minority, something we see all too often here in Canada.

[Raa]

Seriously I don't understand why the RPer's get so worked up about the people who don't RP? Do you see the players who play this game to only level up and leave complaining about to many RPer's? No, because they don't care.

Actually, they do. :\