Author Topic: Unclear Rationales  (Read 3308 times)

Velh Krome

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Re: Unclear Rationales
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2008, 04:02:31 pm »
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sure, laugh
I do, but not about that specific point, but because you are apparently only searching for bits to go offotpic - I was actually pondering to use that example at all.
If you still dont get the point I am not very eager to bring more examples only for finding you focusing on sidenotes to nitpick, not on main points and the general meaning of posts. Finally, my time is too precious to lead a useless discussion with you. If you arent willed to get ideas and discuss them, instead only stubbornly try to remain the "one to be right" and having the last word by any even absurd means, have fun with it, and consider me granting you this your desire - mission accomplished! lol
But I am almost sure you are already knowing how to counter this, no? Nice, I dont care xD

Yes Socius, you list quite some valid options on what Mastercrafted my mean o/

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Re: Unclear Rationales
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2008, 04:39:50 pm »
I'm merely opposing an argument that can be compared to discussing quality of a hammer and a shovel based on how easy it is to hammer nails with each of these tools.
A single tool should be chosen. And likewise - a single system.

Maybe I'm nitpicking, I don't know... and to be frank, I don't care. I've been drawn into this discussion by a senseless comparison with a Gameboy and a PC. Pointed out its irrelevance and brought up the argument already used by the thread starter - an argument so far not discredited in any sensible manner.

Even if something is magic-enchanted, it still shouldn't be harder to use than a non-enchanted tool. It just wouldn't make a difference to someone who cannot call up onto the magical reserves.
The act of creating something so complex that only a master could use it also doesn't seem to make much sense in case of basic tools. Complexity usually comes hand-in-hand with fragility and awkward use. Not exactly something you'd want a rock pick to represent. Using stronger materials, improved smithing techniques and better weightening is something any sensible "expensive" smith would strive for.

Oh, and could you please bold up the arguments in your next post? I had severe problems with finding these in your last.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2008, 04:42:54 pm by Draklar »
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Re: Unclear Rationales
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2008, 04:50:54 pm »
 >:( Senseless Pfff, I thought we were playing nice :flowers:
Anyway, my über deducting skills tell me that you think it needs to be tweaked
Already listed in Socius's über deducting (love that word) list  :sorcerer: poof

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Re: Unclear Rationales
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2008, 05:28:59 pm »
use the bugtracker folks this is senseless.

Kran can eat money BECAUSE THEY CAN.

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Re: Unclear Rationales
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2008, 08:08:04 pm »
Well sure they can eat money because they can eat money. Can they turn in their stools to be reimbursed for the value of the currency they ate like you can turn in damaged paper money in the real world?
As for the Master Crafted thing there could conceivably be embellishments to them that would only make sense to a master. I am not quite sure what those would be for a pick or a hammer but it might be changeable heads or some such thing.

I have no problem at all using the bugtracker but first I need a good idea of what to put there. The problems I have with the various things are a little abstract and can use refinement.

I suppose the stock issue is clear enough to make a feature request about. It is not really a bug. None of these issues really are bugs are they?


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Re: Unclear Rationales
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2008, 08:25:13 pm »
If you want them fixed they are. Notice of the devs I am paying attention here, I don't fix the things you raise points about.

So use the bugtracker.

It is not a feature request it is a bug.

If the appropriate people on engine disagree the bugs will be closed as "not a bug" and nothing changes.

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Re: Unclear Rationales
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2008, 04:41:01 am »
Flyspray 1715 -1717.

BTW Xilllix, you are head of the settings department, correct? Flyspray #1716 is your balliwick as far as I can tell.

The others points were to get some feedback for myself so as to not waste the devs time looking at reports that will be closed immediately. If I post a bug report for every thought that comes into my head while doing this or that, Flyspray will be filled with crap and whatever reputation I may have as being a productive reporter will be completely shot.

Pardon me for caring about quality control.

If anyone who has commented yea or nay in this thread feel free to make a Flyspray account and comment on these bugs.

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Re: Unclear Rationales
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2008, 05:39:36 am »
Be wary of not wasting my time. The forums are hateful and I don't like flaw seekers who don't use the the threads we provided. No worries, I am just tired. VERY VERY VERY tired.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2008, 05:42:51 am by Xillix Queen of Fools »

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Re: Unclear Rationales
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2008, 12:47:00 pm »
Flyspray 1715 -1717.

BTW Xilllix, you are head of the settings department, correct? Flyspray #1716 is your balliwick as far as I can tell.

The others points were to get some feedback for myself so as to not waste the devs time looking at reports that will be closed immediately. If I post a bug report for every thought that comes into my head while doing this or that, Flyspray will be filled with crap and whatever reputation I may have as being a productive reporter will be completely shot.

Pardon me for caring about quality control.

If anyone who has commented yea or nay in this thread feel free to make a Flyspray account and comment on these bugs.

If you have settings issues you dont need to open a bug report, there are a few setting devs that have told you that you can pm them the requested info and they will look into the issues. It is much easier to do it that way then use the tracker.