Author Topic: Ingame-books: Textfile-storing?  (Read 4703 times)

Eharan

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Re: Ingame-books: Textfile-storing?
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2008, 06:56:15 pm »
I too, am annoyed and upset by not being able to save books as text, for later reading.  This change is not a positive one, it lessens the game, and makes it much less enjoyable and more difficult to play.  This is not a good thing.

The ingame interface for reading books is horrible at present, and while it does need a complete rewrite/redesign, I do believe that whatever solution will be reached will not be as suitable as what can be done with text files in a "proper" editor/office program.

If nothing else, having text files stored locally, will allow books to be read when the server is offline, badly lagged, or local internet is down.

I think that a history button to recall previously read books is a great idea, however this system should work from text files, which are stored locally on each player's hard drive.

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Re: Ingame-books: Textfile-storing?
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2008, 09:24:10 pm »
Ah, just leave the bookcase examine window open and you can read the books in it anywhere in the world. I read the DR books in Gugrontid.
Of course I reported this as a bug but that is something else.

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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2008, 09:27:13 pm »
Of course its not as comfortable, but you can just make some screenshots, patch them together in gimp/photoshop, and you will be having books' content available offline.

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Re: Ingame-books: Textfile-storing?
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2008, 09:30:30 pm »
you want to see a change me a detailed feature request on the bug tracker and we can get talad to take a look at it.

if you want a change i quote myself

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Re: Ingame-books: Textfile-storing?
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2008, 12:40:41 am »
Agreed, I could raise yet another item in the bug tracker, I'm posting here to try to generate a discussion.  It's more correct to have a discussion about development missteps here than in the bugs system imho.

I do wish the devs would stop 'fixing' things unnecessarily however.  In this case, the ps team has worsened the gameplay and that will only serve to cost the game it's players/testers.   You can't lose sight of the fact that players have real lives, and a finite amount of time to spend in character, in game.  Too many decisions are being taken in the name of roleplay, that add nothing to the gameplay and general enjoyment .

That the old books system wasn't ideal, granted.  The bodge has been created however, by removing the save button, not improving the gui, and forcing players to resort to pen& paper or screenshots is infinitely worse however.

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Re: Ingame-books: Textfile-storing?
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2008, 12:44:57 am »
Not all code changes are the fault of the devs. in this case i made this change but i did it with dev approval, before it was even commited. Now it is out of my hands or the devs. If you want this changed make a nice detailed feature request stating the exact reasons you want it back. It is now up to talad.

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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2008, 03:01:00 am »
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You can't lose sight of the fact that players have real lives, and a finite amount of time to spend in character, in game
Quite true, and thats why I liked the now gone way so much! I felt like right this fact was taken into account. I could be ingame, open some books and save the content, and the next day I could read it during some breaks by day. Of course I can still do the same by taking screenshots, but knowing this way is in fact one not wanted and appreciated, the game and its development just feels less friendly.
To say I have to do all the reading when ingame, sorry, but I fail at seeing a good reason. When I am online I want to play the game, interact, develop, advance the plot and my chars, have fun! With books read during the breaks I could prepare myself a bit for the play in the evening time.

(Discussions on the bugtracker? I actually dont fancy to have to check one more forums like instance like this, sorry  :-X)

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Re: Ingame-books: Textfile-storing?
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2008, 03:18:27 am »
(Discussions on the bugtracker? I actually dont fancy to have to check one more forums like instance like this, sorry  :-X)

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