[OOC] planning of a magic festival

[Roled]

I've been reading this thread with great interest during our downtime, and wondering a few things. My character has been around since late March, so I'm still on the path towards magic and spells, but not there yet. I'm gathering glyphs and asking folks IC where I can learn magic, since Roled wants to be a healer and magician. So I've been getting hints but not spoilers, thanks to everyone who's been helping.

Here are my questions:
At this magic festival, could there be a place where would be magicians can learn some things that aren't spoilers? See I don't even know what, but like once someone said "join a guild that does magic, and they will teach you." So maybe Magic oriented guilds could have presentations or booths or such?

Roled is still too inexperienced to get into the Winch, but he is determined to do so. He hears there is a university there, or some sort of school. Might there be a way that the University can 'come out' to the plaza and hawk their programs, like a career fair? That would be helpful to would be mages.

Thanks.
Oh, I am Roled.

[Xanthan]

Xenon, I think I'd like to see the presentations of the ways include ALL the known spells.  It wouldn't take much more time and would be more interesting for those of us who are intermediate in our advancement in the ways.

Perhaps what is needed is for a few people to volunteer (here) to present in each way, and for them to hash out amongst themselves what spells they will demonstrate.  If we post our names here, there is some hope that this will come together.  I'm willing to talk about magic weapons and potions, but I'm only at realm two or three in the various ways.

[Lokter Tarvitz]

I think this is an awesome idea, but i have some ideas to improve it.
1) Magic Books, written by players, i wrote a basic begginers guide to magic wich gave step by step instructions on purifying and combining glyphs. Things like that would be a good addition aswell as background books and sties about famous mages.
2) Having mages around the edge of the plaza that all cast a set spell at the same time just for a visual effect.
3) brackets for the tournaments, eg. players that oefer a certyain Way can be enrtered into that category and then the winner of each of the mini-tournaments get to fight against each other.

[Bamko]

in reply to:

I think this is an awesome idea, but i have some ideas to improve it.
1) Magic Books, written by players, i wrote a basic begginers guide to magic wich gave step by step instructions on purifying and combining glyphs. Things like that would be a good addition aswell as background books and sties about famous mages.
2) Having mages around the edge of the plaza that all cast a set spell at the same time just for a visual effect.
3) brackets for the tournaments, eg. players that oefer a certyain Way can be enrtered into that category and then the winner of each of the mini-tournaments get to fight against each other.

1) Player written books are great.  But THey should be as much IC as possible IMO.  a quick reference to OOC source is better than a long OOC monolog.  EX: "glyphs must be purified before use! [see PSwiki for OOC explaination]  They will not work if they are not propperly purified!"

2) Great idea... except the lag might cause more problems than it is worth.  Nothing like making the game unplayable for many to put a damper on festivities.

3) ok.. I just like that idea.. but magic duels would have to be outside public area.. now.. if there was a way to "live feed" the video, with stats bars on screen for audiance.... IRL I can see boxers getting hurt... "stepping in postholes" etc, but ingame, without status bars, they look 100% even when at 5%.  Imagine sitting and watching duels without your chatter and movement causing them lag... but that is getting a bit 

[Lokter Tarvitz]

hmm.... a status bar would be good... and if only we could place bets... this would take a lot of work but it is possible.

Movement and Chatter will cuase a LOT of lag, especially with magic spells been banded around and lots of items being placed in the area by merchants.

[Sheneer Shenele]

Having mages around the edge of the plaza that all cast a set spell at the same time just for a visual effect.

Correct me if im wrong but this has been done. A group of mages used magic to create a 'Fireworks Show' i cannot however recall what that was for

[Lokter Tarvitz]

i know it has been done. i just thought it would be good to do again for this festival.

[Entevir]

Wow. Nothing like a good festival to prop an old dog out of retirement.

Keep working on it. Hope to see you there. Oh and if you need any help I'm sure i could still scrape together some creativity.

[Da_Kaos_Child]

Great Idea 

Few notes.

While mages are dueling , you can right click them and it will show you their Current Health.

You should be able to cast heal while in a Mage battle.
Casting heal in a duel can be difficult , if you are healing and some1 taps you with a sword/mace/staff , the heal spell fails
same for all spells casted on self , like sheilds and buffs.

I do like the idea of pitting mages of particular classes against one another.

Then the champions of each Way class could have a 6 man tourney to finish it off!

Also need room for cross class mages.

I think with all the knowledge passing and so forth.
it should be left upto the players
and people who choose to sell books on magical knowledge at the fair ground.

[Jarexia]

I have a lot of rings and glyphs to sell, so I`ll definitely be setting up a stall/auction.

Perhaps if a date could be set, it might spur us all on to get prepared and get ideas finalised?

[Entevir]

I think we have some time left until any one of us dies. So we might as well as take the time to prepare.

But i was wondering. Would it not make sense to hold the tournament separately from the market. As the market would settle in the plaza, and i doubt the guards would like people fighting with spell all the more in the plaza.
So at least a slight factor of the lag caused by traders could be nulled. Also after the regular tournaments have a break for the people to visit the market and the referees to prepare for the final rounds. After that people just march along and then we pull out the fireworks display in the plaza. For the finishing touch.

Comment, bash, smash, fix and don't come near with you four lettered noun's.

[khoridor]

To cast hurting spells in town is illegal, unless in war time.
Why not set your market at the Arena directly, either around the building, or upstairs?
Or why not out of town altogether? Near the magic shop comes to mind as an obvious place. Perhaps Levrus doesn't want to be excluded? He would advertise for it anyway. (hem... I wonder if his welcoming dialog could be changed temporarily, for a few days before the event).

[Gravemind]

The best use of this I think would be for mages to share knowledge of glyph combinations. Have one section of the event a 'library' where, if someone knows a spell that doesn't seem to have been already put down, they can write it on a player made book and drop it on the ground. Books would be given clear titles like "bobbo's rare 5th realm dark way glyph combo"

[Entevir]

To cast hurting spells in town is illegal, unless in war time.

I think i was misunderstood. Anyone who got the idea that i think that tournament should be held in the arena and the market in the plaza you can just skip this post. But I'm walking everyone through it just in case.

First off. We have fighting. Now i can say most people find people beating each other a fantastic spectacle and go watch it with a bit of zeal even. And naturally where would it be held ? What place has an open space to allow for maneuvering, a clear way to distinguish spectators from contestants, and a nice atmosphere to boot ? Simple, the arena. Hence why i suggest holding the tournament there in a quite "Well duh"-tastically obvious suggestion.

And as for the market. Firstly the fighting in the Arena tends to not encourage a calm and relaxed RP or even a social RP at all. Thus why a more friendly environment would be needed. The most obvious place would be the Plaza but as a better alternative i would suggest stronghand(the one near the north gates) ridge. It is not secluded but will not bug players if they don't want to RP with the event but have say quests to attend to in the Plaza. Also it will provide hopefully a bit less random traffic that has nothing to do with the event and does not want to have anything to do with the event.

By separating the two part's as such i think we could create a more balanced atmosphere for both part's of the event.

You know the drill. Comment, smash, bash and keep your "pride" away from me.

[khoridor]

I'm not sure if you want to separate things because of the lag, or the noise, or the interference of the passerby, or even something else. But I'm pretty sure it's good to have at least the market in a place of frequent passage. The uninformed people who discover it by accident are going to make it lively.
If it's a question of background noise, it could be spread along a rather long street, leading to a more isolated spot where some oratory could be needed.
Also, having a NPC mage in the middle makes sens to me. Maybe Barrin, instead of Levrus, is at a better spot? Hydlaa east has plenty of space, and yet has frequent passage.
Anyway, when separated, it will be either market or tournament for many people.