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« Reply #120 on: September 02, 2008, 09:05:08 pm »
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Yes, synchronizing would require some work.
However, it can be done, and there's no rocket science involved.

Here's how:

Replicating the software would require setting up the check-in procedure so that the spare always gets an update whenever the main server is updated. If these updates go through some script (which is one of the first things multi-developer projects set up, usually), it's easy to make that script update the spare server along with the main one.
Replicating the database would require setting up a database on the spare and configuring it as a "slave" of the main server's database. I don't know what laanx.fragnetics.com uses, but if it's Mysql, this has been available for some time now :-)

As a final touch, the spare server should undergo some smoke testing. Nothing more embarassing than a spare that immediately crashes when it's supposed to fire up. To test, cut the stream of updates from the main server with a firewall rule and see whether the spare starts accepting connections from clients (those clients would also have to be cut off from main with a firewall rule).

Kieve, I'm ready to accept the milk and cookies now :-)

OR they could run the server on somethign more.. stable? like maybe Linux? so if it lcoks up it can simply be restarted without restarting the server itself and losing all connection to it

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Re: Server Offline
« Reply #121 on: September 02, 2008, 09:12:37 pm »
From http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=28600.0

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» Q: What are the specs of the Laanx server box?
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    * 2x Dual Core Xeon 3.0ghz (4 logical)
    * 2GB ram
    * 320gb WD RE2
    * Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron LTS 

It seems linux alone doesn't help.... ;)

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« Reply #122 on: September 02, 2008, 09:29:50 pm »
From http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=28600.0

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» Q: What are the specs of the Laanx server box?
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    * 2x Dual Core Xeon 3.0ghz (4 logical)
    * 2GB ram
    * 320gb WD RE2
    * Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron LTS 

It seems linux alone doesn't help.... ;)

well theres your problem, you think you can run a server on 2 gigs of RAM?  my computer has 2 gigs of RAM, and also its not running the server edition of Hardy? LIKE COME ON PEOPLE!

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« Reply #123 on: September 02, 2008, 09:51:08 pm »
Hehehe
First: Ubuntu comes in desktop and server edition. Each version. (www.ubuntu.com)
Second: Yes, you can run the server with 2 GB. Especially with Linux.
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« Reply #124 on: September 02, 2008, 09:55:09 pm »
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well theres your problem, you think you can run a server on 2 gigs of RAM?  my computer has 2 gigs of RAM, and also its not running the server edition of Hardy? LIKE COME ON PEOPLE!

Well, a server can run in considerably less memory than a desktop box, because you're not running a GUI.  HardyHeron 8.04 needs 128 MB for itself. :)

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« Reply #125 on: September 02, 2008, 09:57:52 pm »
Yes you can run a server on 2 GB, but that's an infinitesimal amount when it comes to MMOs. Hard to say what all in the game suffers from lack of system memory on the host.

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« Reply #126 on: September 02, 2008, 09:58:44 pm »
ahhh, linux would probably run it decently with 512 mb's.  Vista wouldn't run it well unless it had 8 gb.  The regular ubuntu also seems pretty buggy though, and I imagine the server version is built much better to handle stuff like a game server than a regular version of linux.  


Seriously though, reading through the posts since I last came I am rolling on the ground laughing.  Thanks for making this extremely hysterical waiting for the server to come back.  :P

Seeing how swell the client runs on windows vista though, I imagine the server runs pretty well too.  Linux is just an addition!  Of course, I do have 4 gb of ram....  Well, 3 since only 3 works with vista 32 bit.      
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« Reply #127 on: September 02, 2008, 09:59:57 pm »
Why do you need to install the server edition?
It only comes down to the choice of packages in the end.
Admittedly I would have an other choice than ubuntu, but ubuntu is not all bad ;)
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Joshed Delerer

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« Reply #128 on: September 02, 2008, 10:15:36 pm »
i have ubuntu, i can run it on 512megs of RAM but its a server, the more RAM the better, especially when it comes to MMOs

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« Reply #129 on: September 02, 2008, 10:21:53 pm »
Since this has gone SERIOUSLY  :offtopic: I'll add my 2 trias...

Ubuntu wouldn't be my first choice... but it really all does come down to packages and keeping them up-to-date... any non-essential packages should be disabled, thus not requiring any RAM.

Also, 2 GB for a dedicated server machine is usually quite adequate, unless there is a LOT of database activity. Where there is substantial database activity, the more RAM that can be dedicated to holding queries or buffering harddisk reads is going to increase overall performance.

Now, with that said... who knows what is wrong with the server right now... nobody has given a definite diagnosis. Wild speculation seems to be a substitute for in-game RP at the moment though...

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« Reply #130 on: September 02, 2008, 10:26:43 pm »
Now, with that said... who knows what is wrong with the server right now...
Laanx is dead, All hail Talad...

umm I'll get my coat.
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« Reply #131 on: September 02, 2008, 10:38:12 pm »

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well theres your problem, you think you can run a server on 2 gigs of RAM?  my computer has 2 gigs of RAM, and also its not running the server edition of Hardy? LIKE COME ON PEOPLE!

Perhaps you should check this link http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=32355.msg372447#msg372447 to see just how well the current server works with 2 gigs of ram
« Last Edit: September 02, 2008, 10:52:16 pm by Merina Kutha »

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« Reply #132 on: September 02, 2008, 10:50:37 pm »
Now, with that said... who knows what is wrong with the server right now...
Laanx is dead, All hail Talad...

umm I'll get my coat.

Nah Laanx is ok, (s)he is probably sulking in the stone labyrinth again ;)

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« Reply #133 on: September 03, 2008, 01:44:11 am »
Ok, I am taking my planeshift vacation to find that no one else did, guys get into a huddle and think about this. I talked to Xordan, he said it would be a LONG while, on the main site, says BIG problem. Sittiing here suggesting things we all know will never take place will make the time go 3x slower. Just stay away from this site, look on it once a day maybe for official announcements, and leave it at that. Please stop pretending that this will be back in an hour because it won't. And i'm sure most of you will say "How dare he say it won't be back on, he better find a different game!". But I won't be here to hear that so bye bye! :D

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« Reply #134 on: September 03, 2008, 02:19:09 am »
A friend of mine came with a fantasy idea:

Friend: - What if they're simulating a major problem to hide a wipe-out?.. I mean they can, can't they?

Me: - Yes, they can.

Friend: - Why don't you post that idea?

Me: - They'll ban me probbly.

Friend: - It would be fun.

Me: - Yeah, maybe but I'd be punished. And surely someone will say that our trias are safe, that the info is mirrored from Singapore to Katmandu or sumthn..

Friend: - What if they don't?

Me: - Bah! Shut up!

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Just kiddn' .. please don't get mad at my friend