End of the World?

[Mathy Stockington]

I read what you typed many times before responding to it Eliseth.
 
In some ways you are correct and in others you are not.
 
Yes there are a great many selfish people in our world. I knew a man who spent much of his time helping people. Once he told me that if he did not like doing what he did he would not do it. I guess there is a lot of self-satisfaction in helping others. Certainly he does good work for many. Is it so wrong that he finds it self-satisfying to help others?
 
Then one the other hand a man at work was diagnosed with terminal cancer last week. He told us he would do everything he could to survive. He has been the hospital for a week and now we are told that he might not even have a week left. So here is a man who thought he had an intestinal problem who is now dying. He has a wife and two young children. All he wants to do is live. Someone pushed his button and he is very sad about it I know that. So are all of the people he knows.
 
If you pushed the button not only would you kill all of us, selfish, unkind and horrible people, but you will also destroy all the good also. I do have to think there are many good people in this world or I would just push my own button because there is really no reason to live then.
 
Yet we do continue to live. We do it for our families and loved ones who need us for whatever the reason. So I do see your point of view, but I also think that many people are decent people and care.
 
I know I have not even addressed everything you talked about. I could write you a letter for hours to do so. There is good out there though it might be hard to find it sadly.

[Gaian]

Eliseth: new civilization will always grow. Everywhere something is growing, everywhere something is dying. Forgot buttons, if we're gonna die (sooner or later, it doesn't matter... But we still have some time  ), something else will do it: there are lot of things to die for, more now. As the ice in the poles that is melting, water will always be more, and the planet will always be more warm, 'till it will be too hot for living here, so, maybe, somebody else, living better in hot places will live here. In a while the sun will die and we all will die. There are more reasons. But why buttons? 
verden: take care, you aren't such different than other people... we all are humans, we all will die, we all are wrong. Under The Moon is right: we're as cruel as all the world is.

[Kieve]

Pfft. You guys are taking this WAY too seriously. It's a freakin' science experiment.

...an $8 billion experiment, but still...

[Gaian]

Actually we're talking about buttons for end the world 
Anyways, if you read what we wrote first, we're not worried about the experiment. We started talk about the end of the world itself, whatever it is.

[Kieve]

I can tell you exactly what it is.

An eventuality. One we will not have to consider for many, many millenia yet.
Unless we build a better doomsday device that can cause our sun to go supernova earlier than expected.

(I did read the posts, all of them. Just think everyone needs to chill for a bit, whether armageddon is push-button or otherwise.)

[Mathy Stockington]

I do so hope we can fix all our worldly problems before we kill this Earth we live on. If not at least I hope that we will not kill each other waiting for that day to come. Hatred is such a waste of energy. Rather I think what makes all different should be cause for rejoicing. Think how boring it would be if we were all the same!

[Shaman]

Is it bad that I've only read about 4 posts in this entire 6 page topic I somehow started?

[Gaian]

I can tell you exactly what it is.

An eventuality. One we will not have to consider for many, many millenia yet.
Unless we build a better doomsday device that can cause our sun to go supernova earlier than expected.

(I did read the posts, all of them. Just think everyone needs to chill for a bit, whether armageddon is push-button or otherwise.)

Sure, but we should start think about it, it doesn't matter how much time is between us and that day. If we keep forgetting about what we are doing, what will cause what we are doing, the end will come first, maybe a different one. Maybe, when that day will come, humanity will not be there. Maybe something other will cause our death. And maybe that something will be caused by what we're doing right now. As Mathy, I hope to fix all the problems we created, too. But it's hard, I know. One more reason to start as soon as we can, or there will be no time left.

Is it bad that I've only read about 4 posts in this entire 6 page topic I somehow started?

You should start reading: you'll not loose time, this thread is full of good things to think at, a lot more than what you (and I, I admit it) would expect.
Good luck! 

[neko kyouran]

"World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones"

[Mathy Stockington]

"Sticks and stones will break my bones, but your words will never harm me" is so untrue.

Someone gave me this quote: 'The tongue has no bones, but it can break bones."
Just maybe we can prevent the "End of the World" Hopefully

[neko kyouran]

Actually, that quote I listed is in reference to the idea that the third world war will be a massive nuclear holocaust in which all life as know it will be wiped out and that if there are survivors, human kind will be reduced to no more than the era of cavemen.  Hence the 4th world war, all they will have is sticks and stones to fight with.

Nostradamus stated it better in his prophecies.

I live by a nuclear power plant.  I consider myself lucky, as when the nukes  rain down, I'll be wiped out instantly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It-KcebEfW0

[Kieve]

Key difference there. "All life as we know it" isn't the same as the end of the world. Whether or not we nuke, poison, murder, betray, and pollute ourselves to extinction is completely irrelevant, because Earth will still be here, and will still support some form of life - even if it has to start from the viral and bacterial levels and work its way back up to sentient.

Or we could get lucky and a meteor blindsides us tomorrow, sparing us the humiliation of prolonged self-destruction! Either way, if we're going to discuss the end of the world, we should start with an important question:
-Antimatter, or solar supernova?

[Prolix]

Anyone post this yet?

[Draklar]

Actually, that quote I listed is in reference to the idea that the third world war will be a massive nuclear holocaust in which all life as know it will be wiped out and that if there are survivors, human kind will be reduced to no more than the era of cavemen.  Hence the 4th world war, all they will have is sticks and stones to fight with.

I'd avoid explaining logic behind that quote, as the sentence itself is witty, but less so logical.
World War Four without global politics developed? ;)

Also, Nostradamus was really an incopetent astrologer, while his "prophecies" are nothing but descriptions of past events. He assumed that since astrological configurations repeat themselves, so will events on the Earth. Sources for his "prophecies" come from historical texts and from the Bible (and in the Bible itself the apocalypse is actually a codified description of world and its politics from two millennia ago). So if Nostradamus really describes any form of "end of the world", then this "end of the world" also happened before Nostradamus was even born :P

[Mathy Stockington]

So are we saying that the End of the World is something we as people will cause? Or will it be the End of the World, as we know it today? If our forefathers could return do you think they would recognize anything that is in our world today? Would they say that the world they knew ended? Instead the world had not ended just the world, as they knew it was gone. So then the question is Will the World End? If we could return in 200 years from now would we be surprised to see what the world has become?

There are so many good points here and I do hope that they continue to be voiced. There is still much to be learned by all that is said here.

There are so many speculations about this. Many in history have hoped at one time or another, during wars and conflicts, that the world as we know would end, to end the suffering. Hopefully the future will bring both the conflicts of the health of our planet and the conflicts of mankind to an end. Maybe someday we can live in peace. We can always hope anyway.