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Gravemind

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Magic?
« on: September 17, 2008, 09:30:42 am »
Just returning to PS after a 1/2 year break, and I'm wondering "How's the magic system these days?"

Last I was here, just about every spell was as effective as breathing on the enemy, unless you were like realm 4-5, and even then you were no match for someone with level 30 in sword. Not to mention that attaining even realm 2 took about 40 hours of straight platinum mining and a million skill points.
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Re: Magic?
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2008, 10:16:40 am »
Hi,

I think prices and necessary pp got adjusted some time ago (but more than half a year?)
For the rest with low stat (and skill) it is still like breathing on the enemy after having eaten Zsatsiki  ;D

With high skill and stat it seems to be very effective.

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Re: Magic?
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2008, 04:09:14 pm »
Yeah, I just got the theoretical knowledge for Dark Way level 23. It cost 223 PP and 8k tria. Bit steep for something that only takes 10% off a rat? Using Taste of Death spel with 200 charisma
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Re: Magic?
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2008, 04:14:19 pm »
It is known that the magic system is not balanced and not working well, the devs have plans to work on fixing this.
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Re: Magic?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2008, 05:31:55 pm »
personally i think magic works just fine, it takes absolutely no skill to click cast over and over in a fight, so if magic were fairly strong at low levels then there would be no place for weapons in fights of any sort.  Magic is definitely far more powerful than close combat weapons, but you have to spend a fortune to get there, otherwise everyone would use magic and swords would be useless.
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Re: Magic?
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2008, 11:07:22 pm »
Quote from: Vannaka on September 17, 2008, 05:31:55 pm
personally i think magic works just fine, it takes absolutely no skill to click cast over and over in a fight, so if magic were fairly strong at low levels then there would be no place for weapons in fights of any sort.  Magic is definitely far more powerful than close combat weapons, but you have to spend a fortune to get there, otherwise everyone would use magic and swords would be useless.

Which is why it's being rebalanced now!   :)

The devs are working on it...  Be patient for these things.
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Re: Magic?
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 01:48:34 am »
Quote from: Vannaka on September 17, 2008, 05:31:55 pm
personally i think magic works just fine, it takes absolutely no skill to click cast over and over in a fight, so if magic were fairly strong at low levels then there would be no place for weapons in fights of any sort.  Magic is definitely far more powerful than close combat weapons, but you have to spend a fortune to get there, otherwise everyone would use magic and swords would be useless.

Unless you fight like me, using the ages old RPG tactic of stand-there-slashing-at-each-other-and-the-person-who's-health-runs-out-first-loses :P
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Re: Magic?
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 03:55:33 am »
Quote from: Gravemind on September 18, 2008, 01:48:34 am
Unless you fight like me, using the ages old RPG tactic of stand-there-slashing-at-each-other-and-the-person-who's-health-runs-out-first-loses :P

umm... wow.... i've never seen anyone fight like that... probly doesn't work to well, eh?
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Re: Magic?
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2008, 02:47:49 pm »
Personally I think the dashing about back and forward thing looks stupid, heh

I suppose it comes from playing Neverwinter Nights, but to me, beating someone is done by having a higher weapon skills and more powerful weapons, not by trying to time your key mashing.

Which brings me to another point, I fail to see how it's possible for that to be effective when I've heard even people using broadband get a ping of like 300-500 in this game. How can timing be effective when you're 3-5 seconds behind what's happening?
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Re: Magic?
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2008, 03:57:18 pm »
Quote from: Gravemind on September 22, 2008, 02:47:49 pm
I've heard even people using broadband get a ping of like 300-500 in this game. How can timing be effective when you're 3-5 seconds behind what's happening?

timing wouldn't be affective if you were 3-5 seconds behind... but i don't think a 300 ping is 3 seconds behind, maybe .3? i'm not really sure
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Re: Magic?
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2008, 04:02:34 pm »
Ping is in milliseconds, the thousandth of a second.
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Re: Magic?
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2008, 12:07:09 am »
hmm ok, it's just I remember I used to play some online FPS and when it came to lag we judged that you had to aim 1 second ahead of a moving target for every 100 ping
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2008, 06:30:10 pm »
Your memory is correct, but not ONLY related to the ping time. The 1 second is to allow for:

1. Your lag to the server
2. The server time to process the shot and send the shot info to all connected clients
3. The targets lag to the server

Ping of 100ms is actually .1 seconds round trip to the server.
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