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playbetter

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enki etiquette
« on: October 13, 2008, 04:46:24 pm »
Before I start a new character, can someone point me to a list of etiquette for Enki? 

I intend to start an insane Menki and would like to know what "rules" he should be breaking, eg. no grooming in public, no tail chasing, no sitting on the fence singing.

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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2008, 05:55:08 pm »
Well the first thing is to forget catlike behaviour insanity in humans doesnt mean to act like an ape as for enki etiquette it varies immensely fro the very formal victorian style of RHoP to the clannish Felines Lair
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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2008, 07:36:11 pm »
Umm Thank you.

    I guess I didn't explain far enough.

     Of course he will be talking to himself and seeing things not there, but Enki are cat people and do have cat traits. I have heard them in game meowing on several occasions. Crazy people may not act like monkeys but may act like cave men with violent tempers and actions. They also may thing they are someone like Lincoln or Napoleon from the past. If you have ever met a crazy person you know their grooming habits, dress and manner are usually not conventional. I can figure out the mental part of the insanity but need suggestions for the "cat" side of it.

     He is intended to be harmless and non violent and nice to a fault, but wildly unconventional and an annoyance (for the sake of humor) especially to Enki with improper behavior. The upset Enki responses and his reaction to it should add more humor. He will be helpful to all if they can stand a little foolishness and distraction in process.

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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2008, 02:01:05 am »
I kind of assumed Enkis groom pretty much the way other races do, except (according to one NPC dialog) they have a special soap for their fur.

Thus, grooming in public other than washing one's hands or face is most likely as much of a no-no as it is for anyone. :P
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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2008, 09:40:17 am »
Ermm Enkidukai are not "Cat people" despite what they look like, if you've heard meowing in game then I suggest that those players havent figured that out either, if you want some ancient characteristics to act out try something novel and remember feline-like isnt the same as being a cat
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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2008, 05:41:21 pm »
I don't mean to sound argumentative, but cat and feline are largely one in the same. Cats ARE felines. I am not saying you should laze around in the sun all day like a house cat, but I am not aware of a feline IRL that doesn't enjoy lazing around sunning themselves frequently.

Why is it that cat people and "feline-like" people are supposedly not synonyms? I chose to play a Menki BECAUSE they were cat-like. I do not chase my tail or anything like that, but what is wrong with meowing or purring or rolling-your-r's? It is RP and how someone chooses to play their character.

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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2008, 05:48:31 pm »
This has always confused me.  Particularly when they're categorized in-game as a feline race, but there are apparently no other cats in Planeshift.  However when you get right down to it, I'd really rather see a single post about the culture of the Ynnwn race as opposed to the full thread with what constitutes feline-like.  It's been discussed before-- look up the purring thread in search.

Edit:  Found.  http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=31679.0
« Last Edit: October 14, 2008, 05:51:53 pm by Kedhran »

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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2008, 06:20:10 pm »
Sorry, I apparently picked a bad example with the purring. However, cat-like or feline-like behavior should be considered IC and at least when tempered with a bit of sanity and reason, should be considered good RP as well. Enki's obviously don't walk around on four legs, they have some of the qualities of a more human race (marriage, commerce, property, modesty, etc). But that doesn't mean they can't still be more agile, "always land on their feet", purr, and other things from the more feline aspects of their race.

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« Last Edit: October 14, 2008, 06:22:31 pm by Mythryndel »

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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2008, 07:37:04 pm »
Sadly this is something the developers brought on themselves when they allowed themselves to pander to the pro-cat lobby. I suspect many of them at the time were part of it. But if you really want to play an insane character perhaps you should run around shouting 'Kikiriiiii!' That being the only animal noise I remember seeing expressed.

Sounds to me like one of the books in the library ought to be a comparative anatomy that explicitly shows that Enkidukai vocal organs are more akin to the other sentients than to any beast that growls, mewls or makes any other kind of inarticulate sound. One problem with them that I see is that the elongated "snout" does not appear well suited to enunciation. The sounds we recognize as being speech would seem to depend on a more flattened mouth/lip structure. Perhaps not, though.

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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2008, 10:45:45 pm »
It is far too much to expect that players will not play their Enkidukai characters like cats. It always seemed that Enkidukai were there for players to have fun with, and I have always considered them something special to PS that made this game fun. If players should not act like cats when playing Enkidukai, then remove Enkidukai from the game or change their models completely.

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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2008, 12:12:51 am »
Basically what verden said... If it looks, smells, feels like a rose... it's a rose regardless of the name you decide to call it.

Enki's look and move like cats. Because of the virtual nature of the game, I have no idea what they smell like, but they should feel soft and furry since they are described to have fur. This makes them humanoid cats. Yes?

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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2008, 12:29:20 am »
False.

Nature vs Nurture.

Identical twins separated at birth, while they are identical in every way, will not act identical if they grow up in different environments. 

Enkis being of sentient mind growing up in a sentient world, would not act like a RL house cat, every though they may share similarities in appearance.

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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2008, 12:42:01 am »
OK. I can see we are well on our way to another duplicated thread about this topic (even though I wasn't around for the originals). Can you please point me to a official PS reference for the official stance on Enki's? I am having a hard time with the argument of even though they look like cats they have almost nothing in common with cats.

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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2008, 03:18:26 am »
Just my personal views on the subject, nothing official, but I have always thought the when they were thinking up the race, they were possibly having this in mind:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kzin

BTW, those are good books to read.  A tad hard to find though.

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Re: enki etiquette
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2008, 05:05:00 am »
 :offtopic: Hey neko! Here you go 532 matches for books you can buy online.