Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!

[Sangwa]

You people are insane. Fortunately the Developers think for themselves and in-game players do not reflect the behaviour in the forum. Else not even a great moderation could help us.

Let's just sit around and wait to see what they'll be coming up with.

[Farren Kutter]

I have yet to see a GM event I was truly dissatisfied with. Granted I rarely manage to get to GM events, and my main character is rather averse to large groups (he dislikes being around a lot of people at once). While I do sometimes take part in them as other characters, this has only been recently.

However, I Doubt an RP created by any player these days will be as good as one created by UtM. Even before he had GMs and all to help with his events, his RPs were hailed as some of the greatest. I have yet, in three years and change of playing (A long time in general for a player to stick around it seems), to see anyone come up with better.

However, when it does happen, and a player does have a more interesting RP event than a GM event currently going on, I will likely be there as one character or another, maybe a few (and with one or two at the GM event as well ). As of yet, I only know two players who could have pulled it off, UtM, and maybe Proglin, back in the good days xD And they both joined the team xD

[Sangwa]

GM's and UtM haven't done a single event that I've considered great, mainly because they've done what you call "RP's" and I call "deficient plotlines." They've done fun stuff alright, but I don't know of any plot that really mattered or contributed to anyone's RP experience in the long run, since they (and their lack of results) never linger around enough to sum into something worthwhile. Though I thank them for their trouble.

On the other hand, no roleplayer ever did a RP event that I've considered "great" because they always include inconsistencies, because players tend to make up for the lack of mechanics with fantastic idiotic inventions, or because you can't roleplay with the major part of the community, because that major part is completely moronic.

So why isn't roleplaying even better? Because there's no main plotline in PlaneShift, GM events are "hit and run"s and player-player roleplay is inconsistent. We're solving the last part here, hopefully the other two should follow up.

[zanzibar]

I don't understand how we got from "How can we make the game more fun?" to "My roleplays are better than your roleplays!".

We're all on the same side here, folks...

[Garris Shrike]

PlaneShift itself should be a developing Yliakum-wide roleplay. It is up to the players right now to dig around and find out what's happening so as to be informed enough to join in, or at least sidebar on the current RP.
If high forum activity was encouraged and events were updated daily for players to read, it would be nice...but we all know that's probably not going to happen. Therefore it's our responsibility as RolePlayers to engage ourselves in the current matter at hand. Those who ignore it to do their own thing are either misinformed or are not roleplaying very well. We all know we can't all sit around and have expected reactions and join in every roleplay, but sometimes it is simply enough to be aware and comment on them to inform other players.

It's lack of communication that kills most roleplays. Plot development, sure, but lack of communication as well. That's what the forums are for, guys! That's what guilds are for!

I challenge ALL guilds to keep there members informed with what information they dug up on the day! I'll start with my Pack, and what we know, we'll use in our everyday roleplays. None of us in PS are pushover RPers, I'm sure even the simplest minds here can catch on if they stay informed.

And on an ending note.....

Do work, son.

[Mathy Stockington]

Can we see the results of this pole?

[zanzibar]

Can we see the results of this pole?

You can see the results if you vote.

[zanzibar]

PlaneShift itself should be a developing Yliakum-wide roleplay.

World wide themes, but interactions on the level of individuals...

[Mathy Stockington]

Can we see the results of this pole?

You can see the results if you vote.

I guess it now obvious that I did not vote. 

[Sangwa]

Choose "snorks" if you don't want to vote. That's why they went to the trouble of getting a third option.

Currently 63 people have voted yes and that's around 57% of those that voted. I'm glad to see that at least 63 people know that RP Enforcement is not equal to moderation fascism, but simply the only way to allow consistent roleplaying (which currently does not exist.)

Garris, I think you're a bit confused. We're talking enforcing RP consistency here in order to allow for everyone to be able to communicate in the language IC and OOC. Currently there is not a established way of roleplaying and therefore each player has its own "language" when it comes to roleplaying. This makes it so some roleplayers can't interact with the others because they fail to understand their language (their own way of roleplaying). Therefore we can't expect players to improve the quality of RPing in game too much, since each player thinks their doing it right, but none is actually speaking the truth (since the moderators, can't side with anyone to make their roleplaying attitude official.)
If developers develop a RP concept that requests some points of agreement (i.e. you can't auto other characters, your dude doesn't have any special powers that can't be "reasonably" [as defined by the Devs or GMs] acquired) and if the GM's make sure it works, then we'll make it so most people can speak the same language. Get my drift?

[Mythryndel]

Yes, but Sangwa... Xillix intentionally left the poll vague. I assume (yes, i know what assuming does) that this was done to spark just the kind of conversation we are having here. You are proving your point about people interpreting things in different ways. You read the poll and had one interpretation, Garris read the poll and had a different interpretation.

As to a more consistent RP environment, I could handle that. In my PERSONAL opinion, I think that things are reasonable in-game for the most part. A few more GMs spread around during non-peak times wouldn't be a horrible thing, but I think they do a good job when they are around at keeping the peace. I think that the rules that are in place right now are sufficient, with maybe a gentle nudge or two every now and then from the GM team to deal with those that stray too far into OOC or IC nitpicking.

To add my own interpretation, I think that most that answered no, simply don't want to have to worry about every sentence they type in main getting them chastised. NOT that they don't want to be IC when conversing with other players.

[zanzibar]

Personally, I think the poll is meaningless and should be ignored.  The discussion is what's important.

[Mythryndel]

Give the man a cigar, I think someone gets it...

(sorry, I couldn't help myself)

[Prolix]

I don't get it. It is a role playing game and by definition what you do is play a role. Even if you are a lame-ass leet speaker you are playing the role of a lunatic even if you do not admit it. Is it really such a big problem anyway? Some people are driven to power-train others to power-yap and everything in between; those are the roles the player chooses to play .

If you want people to partake in grand passion plays perhaps you should build a bunch of theatres and rehearsal rooms and then rent out the halls at an hourly rate. Another thing you could do is to have regularly scheduled religious festivals complete with parades through the streets, open air sermons and whatnot.

I really do not understand all the gnashing of teeth that goes on around here.

[Apnew]

Is it really necessary to have every thread on the forums degrade into a fighting match? Come on people *sigh* Please, Disagree well. Discuss the topic without all the bickering. Something might get accomplished if we do.