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Do the players want there to be a bartender in the gugrontid tavern?

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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2008, 10:46:08 pm »
I don't think there should be an npc barkeeper. Players wanted to have a bar where they can RP bartenders. Look, there is one now and some players already are playing the bartender.

Perhaps some people could group up and supply drinks and food even to the miners down there? Great chance for some fun RP ;)
And who knows, maybe some miners will even RP with the suppliers.

Oh, how about some parties and festivals there? O--) :sorcerer:
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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2008, 11:30:39 pm »
Please don't take this the wrong way... but how long has that tavern been there? How many players have taken the time to staff the place? I had lots of fun there this weekend, but it has been empty each and every one of the other 10 times I have visited it. It may, at the very least, be time for some support staff to draw people in on a regular basis.

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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2008, 11:46:01 pm »
What will putting NPC's in there really do? I mean, I think the reason why Hydlaa is so crowded is because it's the "original" town that came before all the others, and the fact that it's where most of the races spawn. Putting NPC's in the Gugrontid tavern will only draw in people questing/powerleveling in the area, it won't make it more active and create roleplay. You'll notice that the NPC's in Kada's draw in these same kind of people, and those people rarely contribute to the roleplay that's going on there.

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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2008, 11:57:22 pm »
Mythryndel, have you been to the Gugrontid Tavern in the past few days? There's been a few changes to make it much better for RP.

As for no one going there.... Everyone mines there. The miners just have to learn to RP xD They're all 'mindless grendols' in the words of my very own Redden Smallman, who went mining and found himself surrounded by unresponsive people.

What we need to do is force RP to move out to Gugrontid. Some of the die-hard RPers out there who no longer train (like me) may find it refreshing for a change with less bothersome stuff. As well, the Tavern there is much better looking, and while lacking the fame of Kada Els, that's no one's fault but the players themselves who do not go there.

Ever since I first visited the city I entertained thoughts of moving my character and my RPs there, as it is a much smaller city (Farren, if you don't know, is a Ranger and in general feels less comfortable in big cities with walls) and much easier to leave into the wilderness whenever he has wanderlust or wants to be alone, or just wants to do his job :P However, it is hard to do so because people are so heavily rooted into Hydlaa. It's really not that far of a run for most people, though Enkidukai have a bit further to run.

I think possibly the way to do this will be to move my characters there, and force any who wish to RP with them to go there. Most of you don't realize it, though some of you may, that I have many characters spread throughout the RPing community. Mostly with heavier RPers, of course, but I have done this to extend my circle and so that my characters are not all involved in the same RPs.

If you can do so, I would appreciate some other people joining me in making Gugrontid a more prevalent place for RP.

Thanks... >.>




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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2008, 12:06:26 am »
I say no, but I too think there should be a NPC waitresss.

I wanted to RP as the cook there but until a stove(specifically a stove) is put in all the other cooking things there are quite useless for making meals. And as for the Kegs, I sincerely doubt anyone knows how to use them. You need a reason to be there. Honestly, until you can make stuff, to offer to players, right in the tavern, it isn't likely someone is going to bring it with them to offer it. I know, I tried, it is way too much effort.

The Tavern now has barkeeping staff (Players) and is open for Business!
But the miner's aren't interested... you would think they have never heard of Role Play
 
(but the place could do with stove... atm we have to run from Oja with hot water for tea...)


You now have a stove. Enjoy.

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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2008, 12:09:10 am »
My vote is abstain because there are too many things to consider here.  First off, considering it's a Kran town, what exactly would be sold in a Kran tavern?  If you're not a Kran, then a Kran kitchen would be significantly different than a non-Kran kitchen.  Second, the tavern seems to be very central to Gugrontid and it's best we don't encourage players to activate god-mode here.  Third, there's a ******** mine right outside its doorstep and we need to start taking its implications into account in everything here.

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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2008, 12:18:42 am »
The only thing I really have a problem with in the Gugrontid tavern is that everything is made of stone. There's a pretty good chance that you'll get a jagged piece of rock shoved up your pooper if you try to sit in those benches, or you'll nick your leg on the bottom of the table by accident trying to move and get off the bench. Might be nice if that was a little more comfortable, despite being off-theme. That design only really appeals to Krans, and despite it being the Kran town, if we're trying to attract more roleplayers there like in Kada's, some adjustments like this need to be made so that it appeals to the other races and becomes a "central hub" of some sort instead of just Krantown. After all, this place is pretty heavy on Talad. Don't you think other races of the same faith would like to go there?

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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2008, 03:30:19 am »
Um... Farren...

... I had lots of fun there this weekend...

So, yes. I have been there recently. What I was asking is how many times since Gugrontid was established have there been Players willing to bring their RP to the tavern? This weekend was the FIRST time I have seen other players in the tavern... and I have poked my head in nearly a dozen times in the 10 months I have been playing PS. I hope that things continue the way they were this weekend... and start attracting more people to RP there... but you need a reason to get people there at all. From what I have read on the forums, most "true RPers" loath the plat mining crowd and thus give Gugrontid a wide berth. You have a real chicken and egg problem with getting long term RP to happen at the Gugrontid tavern.

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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2008, 03:46:26 am »
The only thing I really have a problem with in the Gugrontid tavern is that everything is made of stone. There's a pretty good chance that you'll get a jagged piece of rock shoved up your pooper if you try to sit in those benches, or you'll nick your leg on the bottom of the table by accident trying to move and get off the bench. Might be nice if that was a little more comfortable, despite being off-theme. That design only really appeals to Krans, and despite it being the Kran town, if we're trying to attract more roleplayers there like in Kada's, some adjustments like this need to be made so that it appeals to the other races and becomes a "central hub" of some sort instead of just Krantown. After all, this place is pretty heavy on Talad. Don't you think other races of the same faith would like to go there?

Don't be a pansy, Shaman. I'd take rocks instead of wood any day. I'm more manly than you, and I'm just a little girl. :P

I like the whole stone thing... It's the Kran's home, and I don't think they care much for fluffy cushions. They don't have tender baby bottoms like Dermorians and such.

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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2008, 04:12:03 am »
I say no, but I too think there should be a NPC waitresss.

I wanted to RP as the cook there but until a stove(specifically a stove) is put in all the other cooking things there are quite useless for making meals. And as for the Kegs, I sincerely doubt anyone knows how to use them. You need a reason to be there. Honestly, until you can make stuff, to offer to players, right in the tavern, it isn't likely someone is going to bring it with them to offer it. I know, I tried, it is way too much effort.

The Tavern now has barkeeping staff (Players) and is open for Business!
But the miner's aren't interested... you would think they have never heard of Role Play
 
(but the place could do with stove... atm we have to run from Oja with hot water for tea...)


You now have a stove. Enjoy.

Yay!  \\o//

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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2008, 07:22:33 am »
Some very interesting ideas have been generated here. I'm glad that all of you have taken the time to vote and/or give suggestions. I especially like the idea of leaving the bartender spot free for players to RP while putting in some NPC support staff. Also, a big thank you goes out to all the players who read this thread and took it upon themselves to get some tavern action happening in Gugrontid!

Raa:

You made some valid and useful points; however, they were a bit overshadowed by you calling the devs "lazy" and saying that we "are acting like you don't want to bother with this", however tongue-in-cheek you may have meant it. The fact that a dev started this thread would seem to indicate otherwise on both counts. We want to do something to encourage RP in Gugrontid, and we thought we'd give players a chance to add their voices to the process. Also, calling Shaman a "pansy" isn't all that nice either (unless there was a horrible morphing accident I haven't heard about?) ;) So please help us keep the focus on brainstorming and hopefully together we can come up with something to help make Gugrontid a livelier place to RP.

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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #56 on: November 11, 2008, 05:21:55 pm »
Yay! we got a stove :P

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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #57 on: November 11, 2008, 09:35:15 pm »
Uhm.... I am surprised that nobody came up with something that looks like a rather obvious solution. Why not make Allelia appear there temporarily? What I mean is: We already have NPCs that are not always in the same place. So why not make Allelia appear sometimes in Kada Els and sometimes in the bar in Gugrontid? In an ic-sense it could be said, that the bar is run by the same people or that Allelia has a part-time job in both.

This would solve two problems:

* people could still rp the bartender sometimes, when Allelia is gone (in Kada Els as well as in Gug)
* no new NPC would have to be added to the game

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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2008, 09:43:29 pm »
...Was the poll only closed AFTER more people chose Yes? You realize that these people who chose Yes never go to the Gugrontid tavern, right? There's been roleplay every day there for the past four days I've been there, and it certainly doesn't need another NPC in there to bring any sort of roleplay to it. Like I said before, all that does is attract more powerlevelers to it. -.-

Edit: Scratch that, I could've sworn I remembered there being an option to remove my vote before. Don't see it now, so I thought it was closed. :/
« Last Edit: November 11, 2008, 09:45:38 pm by Shaman »

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Re: Gugrontid Bartender?
« Reply #59 on: November 11, 2008, 10:23:52 pm »
...Was the poll only closed AFTER more people chose Yes? You realize that these people who chose Yes never go to the Gugrontid tavern, right?

You don't know that.