Saving Crafting books

[Illysia]

If at all possible, can you convert crafting books back to saveable? It is extremely difficult to read the cooking crafting books in the normal book format. If you could save it, it would be far more manageable.

I'm sure many who try to work from it take one look at it and somewhat give up on cooking right there. 

[Mythryndel]

It isn't just the cooking book... they are all like that. When I started crafting (started with ingots, then later sword making) I had to have someone explain it to me... I couldn't make heads or tails out of the books. They tell me what I am capable of doing... just not what I need to do in order to actually make something useful.

I think that a generic list of abilities, like currently exist can be useful, but why can't I just have a "recipe" for short sword, or gold stock, or apple pie?

Just out of curiosity, how is making them savable going to help a new player learn to use them? I know that an experienced player could reorganize the text and make it usable out of game, but that doesn't seem helpful to those that don't already know what they are doing.

[Getoran]

It isn't just the cooking book... they are all like that. When I started crafting (started with ingots, then later sword making) I had to have someone explain it to me... I couldn't make heads or tails out of the books. They tell me what I am capable of doing... just not what I need to do in order to actually make something useful.

Well, you actually can extract the information you need from the books. Sword Making for example - you see that you can make an alpha blade from steel stock - then you check what you can do with an alpha blade and follow the path up to the final blade.

Just out of curiosity, how is making them savable going to help a new player learn to use them? I know that an experienced player could reorganize the text and make it usable out of game, but that doesn't seem helpful to those that don't already know what they are doing.

Reorganization is a great help. I reorganized my Book of Blades by just typing everything I can do in a text editor and sort it by weapon type. There are two major problems with these books:

1. They are a complete mess. Everything is mixed together and not sorted by the product you want to make.
2. The books are too small and not resizable. One instruction usually does not fit into one line. This makes it hard to read and find information.

Making them savable would make them viewable outside of PS. You can load the book in a text editor and clean it up.

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[neko kyouran]

The goal of the wishlist forum area is to suggest and expand on ideas to help further the game.

Not to suggest work arounds that utilize other software.

I'd rather people suggest ways to improve the in game functionality of the crafting books.

[Getoran]

The goal of the wishlist forum area is to suggest and expand on ideas to help further the game.

Not to suggest work arounds that utilize other software.

I'd rather people suggest ways to improve the in game functionality of the crafting books.

Ok, then two suggestions:

1. Make the books resizable.
2. Sort them by product type and steps to do.

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[Mythryndel]

Add your voice here...

http://www.hydlaa.com/flyspray_upgrade/index.php?do=details&task_id=1632

(someone has to take up the slack, and point people to the bug tracker since Caarrie is on break... )

[Caarrie]

data/gui/readbook.xml

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<widget_description>

    <widget name="BookReadingWindow" factory="pawsBookReadingWindow"
            visible="no" savepositions="yes" movable="yes" resizable="yes" keepaspect="yes" configurable="yes" >
        <frame x="100" y="100" width="447" height="450" border="yes"/>
 <minframe width="447" height="450" />
        <bgimage resource="ReadBook Background" />
        <title resource="Blue Title" text="Read Book" align="left" close_button="yes"/>
       
 
        <widget name="ItemName" factory="pawsTextBox" >
        <frame x="35" y="35" width="385" height="20"/>
        <text horizAdjust="CENTRE" />
  <attachpoints>
            <attach point="ATTACH_RIGHT" />
            <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_BOTTOM" />
            <attach point="ATTACH_TOP" />
            <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_LEFT" />
        </attachpoints>

        </widget>
     

    <widget name="ItemDescription" factory="pawsMultiLineTextBox" >
        <frame x="38" y="90" width="385" height="272" border="yes"/>
        <font name="/planeshift/data/ttf/becker-m.ttf" r="0" g="0" b="0" size="12"/>
            <attachpoints>
                <attach point="ATTACH_LEFT" />
                <attach point="ATTACH_RIGHT" />
                <attach point="ATTACH_BOTTOM" />
                <attach point="ATTACH_TOP" />
            </attachpoints>
    </widget>
    <widget name="ItemDescriptionCraft" factory="pawsMultiLineTextBox" >
        <frame x="38" y="90" width="385" height="272" border="yes"/>
        <font name="/planeshift/data/ttf/LiberationSans-Regular.ttf" r="0" g="0" b="0" size="12"/>
            <attachpoints>
                <attach point="ATTACH_LEFT" />
                <attach point="ATTACH_RIGHT" />
                <attach point="ATTACH_BOTTOM" />
                <attach point="ATTACH_TOP" />
            </attachpoints>

    </widget>

    <widget name="WriteButton" factory="pawsButton" id="1001" tooltip="Write in this book">
        <frame x="5" y="5" width="22" height="22" />
        <bgimage resource="Scribe" />
                <attachpoints>
                    <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_RIGHT" />
                    <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_LEFT" />
                    <attach point="ATTACH_TOP" />
                    <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_BOTTOM" />
                </attachpoints>

    </widget>

    <widget name="SaveButton" factory="pawsButton" id="1002" tooltip="Save this book">
        <frame x="35" y="5" width="22" height="22" />
        <bgimage resource="Scribe" />
                <attachpoints>
                    <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_RIGHT" />
                    <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_LEFT" />
                    <attach point="ATTACH_TOP" />
                    <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_BOTTOM" />
                </attachpoints>
    </widget>
       
    </widget>

</widget_description>


it is not perfect due to a code issue with the scroll bar but this should resize ok for most people, enjoy.

[Illysia]

Thank you.

[Getoran]

data/gui/readbook.xml

it is not perfect due to a code issue with the scroll bar but this should resize ok for most people, enjoy.

Thank you very much, but for me it doesn't work. I can resize the book now, but I can't get one instruction into on line. The font of the book just get's bigger. Is there a way to make the font size stay constant so that more text can be displayed in one line?

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[Caarrie]

ok lets try this version
data/gui/readbook.xml

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<widget_description>

    <widget name="BookReadingWindow" factory="pawsBookReadingWindow"
            visible="no" savepositions="yes" movable="yes" resizable="yes" keepaspect="yes" configurable="yes" >
        <frame x="100" y="100" width="447" height="450" border="yes"/>
 <minframe width="447" height="450" />
        <bgimage resource="ReadBook Background" />
        <title resource="Blue Title" text="Read Book" align="left" close_button="yes"/>
       
 
        <widget name="ItemName" factory="pawsTextBox" >
        <frame x="35" y="35" width="385" height="20"/>
        <text horizAdjust="CENTRE" />
  <attachpoints>
            <attach point="ATTACH_RIGHT" />
            <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_BOTTOM" />
            <attach point="ATTACH_TOP" />
            <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_LEFT" />
        </attachpoints>

        </widget>
     

    <widget name="ItemDescription" factory="pawsMultiLineTextBox" >
        <frame x="38" y="90" width="385" height="272" border="yes"/>
        <font name="/planeshift/data/ttf/becker-m.ttf" r="0" g="0" b="0" size="12" scalefont="no"/>
            <attachpoints>
                <attach point="ATTACH_LEFT" />
                <attach point="ATTACH_RIGHT" />
                <attach point="ATTACH_BOTTOM" />
                <attach point="ATTACH_TOP" />
            </attachpoints>
    </widget>
    <widget name="ItemDescriptionCraft" factory="pawsMultiLineTextBox" >
        <frame x="38" y="90" width="385" height="272" border="yes"/>
        <font name="/planeshift/data/ttf/LiberationSans-Regular.ttf" r="0" g="0" b="0" size="12" scalefont="no"/>
            <attachpoints>
                <attach point="ATTACH_LEFT" />
                <attach point="ATTACH_RIGHT" />
                <attach point="ATTACH_BOTTOM" />
                <attach point="ATTACH_TOP" />
            </attachpoints>

    </widget>

    <widget name="WriteButton" factory="pawsButton" id="1001" tooltip="Write in this book">
        <frame x="5" y="5" width="22" height="22" />
        <bgimage resource="Scribe" />
                <attachpoints>
                    <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_RIGHT" />
                    <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_LEFT" />
                    <attach point="ATTACH_TOP" />
                    <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_BOTTOM" />
                </attachpoints>

    </widget>

    <widget name="SaveButton" factory="pawsButton" id="1002" tooltip="Save this book">
        <frame x="35" y="5" width="22" height="22" />
        <bgimage resource="Scribe" />
                <attachpoints>
                    <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_RIGHT" />
                    <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_LEFT" />
                    <attach point="ATTACH_TOP" />
                    <attach point="PROPORTIONAL_BOTTOM" />
                </attachpoints>
    </widget>
       
    </widget>

</widget_description>


it is not perfect due to a code issue with the scroll bar but this should resize ok for most people, enjoy.

[Getoran]

ok lets try this version
data/gui/readbook.xml

it is not perfect due to a code issue with the scroll bar but this should resize ok for most people, enjoy.

Yeah, this does the job. Thank you very much. MUCH better now!

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[rtrentc]

I like the way this works as well It does help out on the reading of the books. This should be added to the next revision of PS.