RP Covenant.

[Rennaj]

 Simple it is stated that this is a Role Player Server, Also states What will happen to you if you misbehave, but above all, Lets you Role Play how you want, NOT how others want you to.

[zanzibar]

@ post 223:  What you wrote is technically correct, but it doesn't fulfill the purpose of a community compact.  What you wrote basically says "If you break the rules, you will be dealt with."  Technically correct, but the purpose of the compact is to communicate more complicated expectations than that.  Also, the form of the covenant that was voted on communicated a definition of roleplay, where-as the covenant in post 223 does not.

@ post 225:  The problem is that you aren't allowed to roleplay however you want.  What others expect from your roleplay is very relevant.  For instance, I can't enter the game and roleplay that I'm Batman, even if it's what I want to do.  It has to be within the settings, and non-disruptive.

[Rennaj]

Simple answer to your points, ADD within settings.

[zanzibar]

It would still be technically correct without actually communicating much, let alone communicating community expectations in a sophisticated way.

[Akkaido Kivikar]

 

The whole problem could be avoided if there was better knowledge on RP available for newbs from the start...

[Rennaj]

It would still be technically correct without actually communicating much, let alone communicating community expectations in a sophisticated way.

Here is a example of what I do not like about this, ((community expectations))
Whether or not you like it I and others are part of the community, so who are you or others to say who is right?
We already have a Role Play guide, it is here http://www.planeshift.it/roleplay.html

[zanzibar]

It would still be technically correct without actually communicating much, let alone communicating community expectations in a sophisticated way.

Here is a example of what I do not like about this, ((community expectations))
Whether or not you like it I and others are part of the community, so who are you or others to say who is right?
We already have a Role Play guide, it is here http://www.planeshift.it/roleplay.html

Well it's not coming from me, it's coming from the devs.  Argue with Xillix if you don't like it.

[Kangold D]

Install this sign all over the map, even on the nose of the Death Realm exit monster---problem solved! 

[enderandrew]

I decree that the sign itself is OOC, and those posting the sign should be hanged.

"Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked."

[Mordraugion]

Well it's not coming from me, it's coming from the devs.  Argue with Xillix if you don't like it.

Actually if you read the OP it's coming from the players it has neither been put to the poll nor ratified yet

[zanzibar]

Well it's not coming from me, it's coming from the devs.  Argue with Xillix if you don't like it.

Actually if you read the OP it's coming from the players it has neither been put to the poll nor ratified yet

The post Janner was responding to was this:

It would still be technically correct without actually communicating much, let alone communicating community expectations in a sophisticated way.

(emphasis added)


But anyway, even if you DO go to the OP, you will find this:

I move that the players try to establish a set of roleplaying principles that they want to adhere to.

If you read further through the rest of the OP, you will find that one part of developing the covenant is producing a definition of roleplay.

[Mordraugion]

and even your quotes point out that the ideas and definitions come from the players not the devs

[zanzibar]

and even your quotes point out that the ideas and definitions come from the players not the devs

Janner was complaining that the covenant is being used to define roleplay.  Janner was not complaining about specific ideas towards roleplay - Janner was instead complaining that specific ideas about roleplay are being inserted into the covenant.  Having a covenant, and the nature of the covenant, came from Xillix.  If it did not originate with Xillix, it was sponsored and moved forward by Xillix.

Yes, you are right that players are giving input and are being given the opportunity to craft their own covenant.  I didn't say it was otherwise.  Although the covenant we create must be approved by the GM team before anything happens with it.

[Rennaj]

and even your quotes point out that the ideas and definitions come from the players not the devs

Janner was complaining that the covenant is being used to define roleplay.  Janner was not complaining about specific ideas towards roleplay - Janner was instead complaining that specific ideas about roleplay are being inserted into the covenant.  Having a covenant, and the nature of the covenant, came from Xillix.  If it did not originate with Xillix, it was sponsored and moved forward by Xillix.

Yes, you are right that players are giving input and are being given the opportunity to craft their own covenant.  I didn't say it was otherwise.  Although the covenant we create must be approved by the GM team before anything happens with it.

 Shalmaneser I am posting as Rennaj, so unless you want me to address you as I have here, IT is Rennaj. now I am discussing and putting forward my view's and ideas. not complaining.
 The opening post is from Xillix, so no need to argue that point anymore.

[enderandrew]

Principles are ideals.  A covenant suggests a contract.  What are the specific terms?  How is it enforced?

I think worrying about those details takes away from actually playing and enjoying the game.  That is merely my two tria.