Get rid of the Wish List forum?

[h34th]

As has been indicated, the ability to get a basic review on an idea by posting it to the forum first is a benefit. If a dev thinks something is worthwhile, they might respond with "post it to the tracker". If it has been posted before, someone will say so, hopefully add a link to the original thread, et cetera. Is it just me, or do other people see absolutely nothing wrong with this approach and are also doubtful that this really warrants a thread?

[Orgonwukh]

As has been indicated, the ability to get a basic review on an idea by posting it to the forum first is a benefit. If a dev thinks something is worthwhile, they might respond with "post it to the tracker". If it has been posted before, someone will say so, hopefully add a link to the original thread, et cetera. Is it just me, or do other people see absolutely nothing wrong with this approach and are also doubtful that this really warrants a thread?

Where do you have this procedure from? The devs seem not to agree with you here.
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=34228.msg392933#msg392933
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=34228.msg392958#msg392958

[zanzibar]

As has been indicated, the ability to get a basic review on an idea by posting it to the forum first is a benefit. If a dev thinks something is worthwhile, they might respond with "post it to the tracker". If it has been posted before, someone will say so, hopefully add a link to the original thread, et cetera. Is it just me, or do other people see absolutely nothing wrong with this approach and are also doubtful that this really warrants a thread?

Where do you have this procedure from? The devs seem not to agree with you here.
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=34228.msg392933#msg392933
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=34228.msg392958#msg392958

I don't see what you mean.  Caarrie was simply saying that there's no official procedure of discussing things on the forum.

[Arerano]

As has been indicated, the ability to get a basic review on an idea by posting it to the forum first is a benefit. If a dev thinks something is worthwhile, they might respond with "post it to the tracker". If it has been posted before, someone will say so, hopefully add a link to the original thread, et cetera. Is it just me, or do other people see absolutely nothing wrong with this approach and are also doubtful that this really warrants a thread?

Where do you have this procedure from? The devs seem not to agree with you here.
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=34228.msg392933#msg392933
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=34228.msg392958#msg392958

Caarrie is no Dev.

[h34th]

Its not official, its de facto. As in, the de facto use of threads to bump post counts being a fairly standard behavior in internet forums.

[zanzibar]

As has been indicated, the ability to get a basic review on an idea by posting it to the forum first is a benefit. If a dev thinks something is worthwhile, they might respond with "post it to the tracker". If it has been posted before, someone will say so, hopefully add a link to the original thread, et cetera. Is it just me, or do other people see absolutely nothing wrong with this approach and are also doubtful that this really warrants a thread?

Where do you have this procedure from? The devs seem not to agree with you here.
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=34228.msg392933#msg392933
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=34228.msg392958#msg392958

Caarrie is no Dev.

How isn't she a dev?  Doesn't she fix bugs and work with the code, and she's very very active on the forums answering questions and directing people to the bug tracker.  Maybe she doesn't have an official title of dev, but she's certainly a de facto (if not de jure) official of the game.  And wasn't she involved with the GM team?

[Arerano]

Caarrie is a tester. And yes it does matter since Devs are usually those who implement the bugs, thus it's indeed a difference whether it was "a Dev" or not.

In the very least it's wrong to simply say "The devs seem not to agree with you here.".

[zanzibar]

Alright, I'm "officially" "confused".  Lock?

[Caarrie]

Alright, I'm "officially" "confused".  Lock?

you mean finally i agree with zanzibar??

I am not a dev, i am a tester and i work hard to try to make sure that players get correct information. Also part of the job of the testing team is to make sure devs get infomation they need from players if that is a bug report or a future feature request. again as long as you want a feature request to possibly get ingame devs will look at the bug tracker before they search the forum and read pages and pages of threads just to find something they want to add ingame. Also keep in mind that the testing team has the right to close any bug or feature request if it is not valid or is just something that is known to not be added to the game. We dont have an official policy on handling feature requests but the team does have something in the works, for now all feature requests posted on the tracker are following the wishlist guidelines http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=21400.0. Now if you have a good idea and someone else agrees with you, then your idea might be good enough to get ingame, just make sure if you add it to the tracker it is very detailed the most detailed the better in these cases.

[Prolix]

What, you mean a common sense approach to the wishlist/feature request divide might actually be viable?
Anyway I lay claim to the quoted procedure, I didn't invent it I just related what I found to be productive in my few years here.

[zanzibar]

Alright, I'm "officially" "confused".  Lock?

you mean finally i agree with zanzibar??

I am not a dev, i am a tester and i work hard to try to make sure that players get correct information. Also part of the job of the testing team is to make sure devs get infomation they need from players if that is a bug report or a future feature request. again as long as you want a feature request to possibly get ingame devs will look at the bug tracker before they search the forum and read pages and pages of threads just to find something they want to add ingame. Also keep in mind that the testing team has the right to close any bug or feature request if it is not valid or is just something that is known to not be added to the game. We dont have an official policy on handling feature requests but the team does have something in the works, for now all feature requests posted on the tracker are following the wishlist guidelines http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=21400.0. Now if you have a good idea and someone else agrees with you, then your idea might be good enough to get ingame, just make sure if you add it to the tracker it is very detailed the most detailed the better in these cases.

Right, so we should get rid of the wish list forum?  Or are you saying we should keep it, so that the wishes made by people who understand the system have a better chance of implementation?

[Prolix]

I think it was the lock request....

[zanzibar]

I think it was the lock request....

You obviously disagree with the request since you're still posting.

[Prolix]

Some people do find me disagreeable at times. 

I agree there doesn't seem to be much point for this thread to continue.

Still it never hurts to discuss different ideas, this is a discussion forum after all. That is the main reason I would miss the wish list forum if it was eliminated.

[zanzibar]

I made this thread because I thought Caarrie's comments reflected the opinions of the dev team re the wish forum.  In reality, she was just pointing out how the system works.  If you want your wish to get attention more quickly, skip the forum and go straight to the bug tracker.  However if your wish is underdeveloped, it will just be deleted or ignored.  [/thread]