Get rid of the Wish List forum?

[Tuxide]

So the wishlist forum is for informal requests while the bugtracker is for formal requests.  That's not too hard to understand.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

If one of the devs suggests making it a feature request it is probably lower impact and fairly easy to do. The dev or tester who suggests making it a feature request would tend to agree to a feature's usefulness/feasibility.

We have a constant workload as evidenced by the fact that more bugs are reported each release than can possibly be fixed.

The wishlist stays, generally I agree that most ideas are farts in the wind and having somewhere that people can purify an idea through discussion is a good thing.

Removing the wishlist will not make things easier for the devs if that is your concern, most don't read it. Those of us who do will either escalate and idea or ask you to do it via the bugtracker.

As I have said in the past, Planeshift is an idea rich environment, we do not hunger for ideas as much as for people to make manifest the ideas already out there.

[Caarrie]

If one of the devs suggests making it a feature request it is probably lower impact and fairly easy to do. The dev or tester who suggests making it a feature request would tend to agree to a feature's usefulness/feasibility.

Also keep in mind that not all devs that might suggest or even move requests to the tracker are coding devs, so they might like the idea but not know how long it would take to add it ingame. The testing team suggesting moving requests to the tracker are just trying to make sure that devs in time will get a chance to view the request as not all will look though the forum for ideas.

Also at times talad does allow some testers to pick bugs or requests to add/fix and he will let that person  know if it is approved to go ingame and then they will work on it, most of this type of request are very simple and easy ones as not all testers can code as well as some of the devs but this helps them to learn more.

[Orgonwukh]

Also keep in mind that not all devs that might suggest or even move requests to the tracker are coding devs, so they might like the idea but not know how long it would take to add it ingame. The testing team suggesting moving requests to the tracker are just trying to make sure that devs in time will get a chance to view the request as not all will look though the forum for ideas.

Also at times talad does allow some testers to pick bugs or requests to add/fix and he will let that person  know if it is approved to go ingame and then they will work on it, most of this type of request are very simple and easy ones as not all testers can code as well as some of the devs but this helps them to learn more.

Thanks for this explanation, Carrie. I did not know that.
So the term 'dev' is ambigous and it is unclear who is a dev and who not. In the future it might be easier to replace the term 'dev' with 'someone who could make the idea realised in PS'. </sarcasm>
Honestly: It is very difficult to contribute. I wonder how many already gave up trying to contribute because of this 
Using Xillix' terminology: Not everyone keeps farting in the wind when they do not know into what direction to fart. 

[Zontick]

Honestly: It is very difficult to contribute. I wonder how many already gave up trying to contribute because of this 

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[GlassZephyr]

I don't use the wish list because the devs seem to only bother with the bug tracker (according to what everyone says)
and I don't use the bug tracker.
I'll explain that before someone tells me (again, for the billionth time) to use it.
I've seen in game several unreported bugs and have further information on bugs I've seen already on the bug tracker that I'd assume would be useful.
However, I've spent hours searching the bug tracker and can't figure out how to post anything there.
SO, I gave up. If the mods want it to make it so difficult to help the devs then I won't. I know for a fact that there are a lot of people like me but I'm just sick of dealing with people shouting after me to use the bugtracker.
I'm sure people will read this and think I'm a moron that I didn't figure it out and will, exasperated, tell me yet again to use the bugtracker.
I'm not going to so go ahead and say it, I won't.


An additional note: all the posts for bugs that I actually care to see fixed haven't even been edited in a year. Now tell me, why the hell am I being yelled at to march my ass over to the bugtracker when no one fixes bugs? The devs don't have time to work on kran attack animation, no one really gives a rip about it and hell, I've found out how to make it work anyway. There's no possitive motivation for anyone to post on the bugtracker; you get yelled at if you don't and ignored if you do. Tell me, really, why bother?

[Prolix]

If that is your attitude why bother even complaining about it? Nobody said you have to make an exhaustive search of the bug tracker before posting bugs nor is it critical if you select a wrong component. The dev who sorts through the new bugs (lanarel, I think) or another with privileges on the tracker will make whatever needed corrections. For that matter adding a comment is a matter of filling in a text field and clicking submit.
If you look at the task list filtered by the reporter bilbous you will see 26 open and 23 closed. Some of the closed ones were summarily closed, sometimes because it was a duplicate, other times it was deemed to be expected behaviour. In any event nobody ever castigated me for my errors.

All you need to do is click on "Add new task" when you are logged in 


then select the area you think it involves or leave it unspecified, select task type: bug report or feature request or leave that unspecified, give it a meaningful title, fill in the description with as much detail as you can and you are done.


It is a good idea to have email notifications on so that you will know when more information is requested or something is done with it.