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Beheading = True Death
« on: December 14, 2008, 07:08:57 pm »
Purely my opinion, but this is something that's been gnawing at me for a while now. When you kill a creature, like let's say a Trepor, you're able to take its wiggly feelers before it disappears. Now, when you die, you and all of your possessions disappear. However, since we're allowed to take animal parts before they disappear, shouldn't it be the same for heads of fallen foes? That head is no longer the possession of the person it came from, since...well, it isn't attached to the body anymore, and you should be able to take that as a trophy while that person you just killed faces true death. A body can't function without a head, so...need I say more?

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Re: Beheading = True Death
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2008, 07:29:46 pm »
Your body doesn't go anywhere when you die.  It stays on the ground until someone disposes of it in one of the funeral chutes.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2008, 07:41:02 pm »
That's only during true death. My example is that if you don't behead the person, their body naturally fades and appears in the Death Realm. But if you behead them/take their head, they won't be able to go to the Death Realm and would just lay stationary as a headless corpse.

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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2008, 08:02:42 pm »
That's only during true death. My example is that if you don't behead the person, their body naturally fades and appears in the Death Realm. But if you behead them/take their head, they won't be able to go to the Death Realm and would just lay stationary as a headless corpse.

All deaths leave a body behind, I'm pretty sure.
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Re: Beheading = True Death
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2008, 08:03:16 pm »
Thou art wrong.

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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2008, 08:13:09 pm »
Races != creatures. This is not PETA. Animals are not people too. They don't follow the same death rules.

Also, beheading does not result in True Death on its own. If you take a person's head off, it will vanish right along with the body, be it in your hand or not, as do all that person's items.

Why you can take things from rogues, glads, etc, I don't have the foggiest clue, and was one of the things I was advocating a change on (being that you don't get any 'loot' off 'race' mobs, but would get defeat tokens for glads, and bounty 'points' for rogues, both of which could have been exchanged for money or special items from NPCs).

Zanzibar, read the books in the DR library. Only True Death leaves a body behind. :)

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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2008, 09:37:40 pm »
Shaman just wants to be able to run around with his enemies heads in a pike, which is a bit silly.
Anyway, Shaman, what about fighting creatures? Ulbers probably tear their victims' limbs apart everytime they get one... So we would all have to suffer true death when fighting them?
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2008, 09:47:11 pm »
Shaman just wants to be able to run around with his enemies heads in a pike, which is a bit silly.
Anyway, Shaman, what about fighting creatures? Ulbers probably tear their victims' limbs apart everytime they get one... So we would all have to suffer true death when fighting them?

No, that's not at all what I'm intended to do with this information. I'm just trying to clear up any inconsistency. >.>

As for the ulbernauts, I heard that someone will face true death if their body isn't strong enough to make the trip to the death realm. I'll leave that question up to varying situations.

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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2008, 09:55:19 pm »
Zanzibar, read the books in the DR library. Only True Death leaves a body behind. :)
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Re: Beheading = True Death
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2008, 10:09:16 pm »
Right, so leave the head thingy on that grey space too; sometimes when people get their head cut off you're not strong enough to make the trip back, sometimes they are. Isn't that more consistent than only being able to have your head chopped off by sentients?
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2008, 10:12:45 pm »
What I don't understand is that there's a quest for the Dwarf in BD (Hiacheus or however his name is spelled) where he gives you a riddle mentioning someone being hung or beheaded. Why would that be a punishment by Yliakum's government? It seems a little pointless if they can just come right back from the Death Realm.

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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2008, 10:18:20 pm »
So that's the inconsistency: the riddle. Or maybe they think a trip to the death realm is punishment enough.
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Re: Beheading = True Death
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2008, 10:24:47 pm »
That would fit in, as the DR is supposed to be a huge place full of nightmarish creatures and foul things.

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Re: Beheading = True Death
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2008, 10:36:04 pm »
What I don't understand is that there's a quest for the Dwarf in BD (Hiacheus or however his name is spelled) where he gives you a riddle mentioning someone being hung or beheaded. Why would that be a punishment by Yliakum's government? It seems a little pointless if they can just come right back from the Death Realm.

Possibly an enchanted axe or something for the beheading to assure permanent death?
No idea really, just throwing out ideas :P
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Re: Beheading = True Death
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2008, 10:43:01 pm »
An enchanted axe could actually explain why a certain shady NPC wants the executioner's axe so badly.