Merry Xiosiamas

[LigH]

Of course we mourn if nothing happens.

But even more we mourn when anything happens just for the purpose that anything happens. And when it looks like not many opinions were shared before. That sounds like defiance, not like development...

I like to talk with Kerol and Underthemoon. I often realised that they are able to think a few steps further than me. And imagine, Gag Harmond is ambassador... how ridiculous.

[khoridor]

Currently acting, responding, adapting. And yes, it is lively, although I still wonder why almost noone ICly thinks those events are an outstanding change of the world (those who followed Xiosia before excluded).
(No more complains from me, I think I posted them all here already.)

I take the setting as it comes and evolves, and Khoridor will evolve with it.
I think he will simply deny the event as being the deeds of Xaosia, I mean the real Xaosia. He doesn't need to see the gods to believe in them, but a god of nature who gives houses and makes master crafters must be an impostor. In short, that will be a source of polemics in game, as anything always is when the supernatural is involved. And maybe one day Khoridor will be convinced otherwise.
So, yes, it's a change, but I wouldn't call it outstanding. Not yet. Unless I witness active proselytism in the future.

The event was an efficient way to put Xiosia on the map. Its RL date is irrelevant in game, yet relevant for the players who celebrate something and enjoy gifts.
Now let the poets and bards spread the news.

[Mythryndel]

I get soooo tired of everyone trying to cram settings down my throat... but now when something happens... people are actively trying to avoid it or claim it didn't happen out of protest. This was a settings sanctioned event, therefore it DID happen... regardless of your personal feelings about it.

As to the PR and such... I've said the same things for a while now. There is not a lot of communication between the community and the devs (exceptions like Xillix, Caarrie, and a few others do exist on the dev side of the house). However, the community is like a pack of wolves whenever they don't like something. It would be one thing if the community said they didn't like something and gave constructive feedback... but look at this thread, or the house auction thread... it is complete and total BS. Everything from threats of leaving to lamenting the loss of any kind of respect for players. You criticize lack of events, you criticize and nitpick each event... the devs can't win for losing here.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

I do not understand how in the heck it is that anyone can even suggest that we are any less a supportive roleplaying environment in the last years.

The gm team is stocked with rpers.

The settings team is stocked with rpers.

The dev team is stocked with rpers.

I do not understand how in the heck it is that anyone can say that I have not been patient . . .

We are talking about years of insults.

We are talking about people threatening to quit over all manner of things.

We are talking about being asked to mitigate what amounts to open warfare between plers and rpers.

I do not understand how THIS EVENT can be anything other than a chance for people to roleplay a new development in the world.

I don't understand why anyone would quit over such a thing. I really just have no idea.

Arerano- maybe the fact that Laanx didn't react when a tree sprouted up in the garden in "her" city says something about her presence . . . maybe in fact YOU should reread the settings. Whose city was it first? This should open doors for rp, not close them.

Broad resistance to change is and will always be an enemy to development IC and OOC.

Last of all I am not offended by any of this, my response more and more is one of resignation and apathy.

[Orgonwukh]

I play my char according to settings. Diabolis are hurt by holy items, and hence my char was an atheist. I could choose this option at character creation. Now, I am apposed to atheism in game, too. It does not make much sense anymore. The only possiblity is to question the divinity, but not the existence of the so-called gods. I am not sure if this can be called atheism.

On the contrary, you obviously didn't read the description of 'Atheism' when you picked it in character creation.

Let me refresh your memory-

"Despite the obvious presence of Gods and Godesses throughout Yliakum, some deny that these beings are worthy of worship. Most people consider atheists foolish at best and a condemned object of pity at worst. Atheists will bear the worst effects of the penalty for dying since no god will grant them succor from it"

The definition of IRL atheism has never had anything to do with planeshift atheism.

Seriously dude how the hell did you manage to make it through 2 years of the game without learning this? XD

On a final note, I find it hard to believe your character has never died in those 2 years. Atheist dead = permadeath, no second chances

Agreeing with Lhaa here: 'Worst effect of the penalty' unequals 'permadeath'
Thanks for bringing up the debate again: Using the same term for a different thing in game is a bad idea. Although it does not describe it perfectly, I propose 'Agnosticism' instead.
You ask me about how I roleplayed my char? His whole background he has now is the result of interaction with other characters. And the invisibility of gods fitted perfectly to the denial of gods (sorry that I took the freedom of deviating from something the character creation proposed). Until now. If you really are interested how that works, I can tell you more about it OOCly, but this would need more time and space I want to invest right now. Especially since your post does not sound as if you really care.

[Raekh]

The point I did wonder about that event was, on one hand what Arerano tried to explain: too much of a coincidence to not take it OOC-influenced.

On the other hand there were loads of discussions about gods, and it was stated gods will never ever contact the living directly. People would believe in gods for they 'know' about their existence for some reason, which ever one this would be (rumors, tales and legends I suppose). Now all of a sudden Xiosia, one apparently to be considered a "minor goddess" roams incarnated as a dermorian woman.
Seconding, Laanx tolerated her to do so? In midst of (one of) her major cities? Consequently, no one ever witnessed Laanx taking actions, but now some goddess Xiosia came down to bring all benefit - why shouldnt everyone turn a Xiosia-believer, forgetting about that Laanx who was never actually seen herself?

I wasnt around on new year's night, only read about Xiosia popped up once more - was there some explanation brought up that I missed?
Merely provoking: Will the Laanx statue be replaced by one representing Xiosia, the one who showed much (or say more) love to all the citizend in range?

[Skrein]

The entire Xacha race was saved by Laanx, as opposed to a goddess simply coming in and showering the unworthy with gifts of their choosing. I can see a religious debate/war starting ingame, but of course that won't happen since apparently they're all fine and dandy with each other (the gods).

[Raekh]

The entire Xacha race was saved by Laanx

Unless the Setting changed about this point, YOU do know it might have happened like this, but ICly this would only have been transported as legends, not as a fact.
Jesus revived, how much of a fact is this? The same time someone makes you a champion race car driver - which would have more impact on you, Skrein, the legend, your believe that is, or that guy to have brought you a miracle?

I am not about starting any war or argument, just curious about hows it fitting in after all which was stated in the past.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

So many assumptions . . .

The gods are not fine and dandy with each other and there really isn't evidence to suggest that they are.

What do you want?

A battle royale among the gods?

A steel cage match to see who rules Hydlaa?

How individuals and in game organizations respond to this event is entirely up to you, the players.

[Tuxide]

Wow you guys have totally redefined the word carebear.

Silly RP carebears, people think RPers are an endangered species when they are the ones who don't want to RP against the radical settings.

Go get your gun XilliX, let us go big game hunting for carebears now.

[Raekh]

lol!
I was trying to sort how this would fit into the things I gathered about the Setting so far - I wasnt meaning to step on anyone's toes!xD

Really, forget it, I do.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

I don't see much need to carry on with this thread.

Thanks to everyone who participated.

Happy New Year to all.