[OOC: Roleplay or Scam?]

[Donari Tyndale]

True, that is why some of them have been contacted in game.

[Lokter Tarvitz]

[I have returned the key and most of the items I Had. I also want all of those who had anything taken to look in their logs and send me a list of what they dropped. I will try to get ALL of the quest items returned. I can try to get the rest returned aswell but there is no guarantee that I can get it ALL returned. I can only promise to try.]

[Dajoji]

I would suggest that next time you pull a scam like this say "Drop all your money" instead or "Drop everything". That would save us a lot of trouble since you can always make more money but losing irreplaceable quest items can cause a good share of grief, not to mention guildhouse keys. Think of it as nice thing to do as a player behind an evil character. You don't have to be nice but that makes our community better as not everyone has the RP experience to see the difference between being an IC bad guy and a RL one, and taking the time to avoid OOC misunderstandings is always good.

[Vannaka]

Actually we wanted them to drop all their money too, but it turns out trias can only be dropped in stacks of 65, and for a lot of players that's quite a few stacks, so they kept their trias for the most part.  I'd like to clear up, that the character claiming to be xiosia was not named xiosia, or anything even slightly similar.  In fact, she looked like an old nasty woman with rotten teeth and foul breath, she asked the ones being "scammed" to sacrifice some more animals for her, and she even told them a man was evil, and tried to get them to kill him.  People are so eager to get their rewards from GMs that they don't even think.  I really can't take any complaints about this seriously, since basically a nasty evil looking woman asked everyone to drop their things on the ground and commit suicide.... and then they did.  What would you expect to happen?

[Parallo]

Nice one 

[zanzibar]

I really can't take any complaints about this seriously, since basically a nasty evil looking woman asked everyone to drop their things on the ground and commit suicide.... and then they did.

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[Arerano]

...not everyone has the RP experience to see the difference between being an IC bad guy and a RL one, and taking the time to avoid OOC misunderstandings is always good.

[ That's one point I tried to make clear. Just in a slightly different context aka "Don't let OOC occasion (christmas) be the reason of making an IC gift-giving", for those "with less RP experience" will/do associate the one with the other.

It's kinda sad that that point was apparently not understood, IMHO. ]

[Timmothy Perriwinkle]

Wow. Drop it. Seriously.

[Mythryndel]

I heard about this event as it was going on from a guild member. I had my suspicions about it because of a couple of people I was told were there... Sorry Vanaka, but my character has met you a few times in-game and doesn't like you or trust you further than he could throw an ulbernaut.

However, with that said... this was an awesome scam. My character wouldn't have been able to pull it off... he would have felt guilty about conning people. However, if things were just lying on the ground when he happened by... that is another matter entirely...

I use the term scam to describe the IC event. There has been a LOT of IC talk about the recent Xiosia appearance, and someone decided to jump on it's coat tails with ill intent. This may have been devised OOC, but it was enacted IC with IC motives and knowledge. Sucks to be scammed, but this was a legitimate role play. Either evil characters are allowed to be evil, or they shouldn't be allowed... period. Get over it.

[Lokter Tarvitz]

I heard about this event as it was going on from a guild member. I had my suspicions about it because of a couple of people I was told were there... Sorry Vanaka, but my character has met you a few times in-game and doesn't like you or trust you further than he could throw an ulbernaut.

Well... you trust him more than some people. I personally do trust Vannaka. But thats becuase I seem to know him more than others. Who just judge him becuase he used to be PoC.

I use the term scam to describe the IC event. There has been a LOT of IC talk about the recent Xiosia appearance, and someone decided to jump on it's coat tails with ill intent. This may have been devised OOC, but it was enacted IC with IC motives and knowledge. Sucks to be scammed, but this was a legitimate role play.

Hehe... well... Neither Vannaka, Ikon or Myself did any of the planning. Vannaka stumbled across the RP and decided to join in. Me and Ikon came later. We realised what was going on and so we played along, IC, like rogues should. So, I would not only like to say that this was IC and OOC we are helping where we can, But also... I dont like the fact that you are all judging Vannaka, he has changed, RP with him, give him a chance to prove himself. Dont moan here unless you actually have a reason to.

[Mythryndel]

For the record, I do not know Vanaka the player... I have only come across Vanaka a few times in-game... and his conduct was not appreciated by my character. My dislike for Vanaka is purely IC, not based solely on his previous association with PoC... which did add to my characters dislike of him... being that my character supported the war against PoC...

[Vannaka]

I heard about this event as it was going on from a guild member. I had my suspicions about it because of a couple of people I was told were there... Sorry Vanaka, but my character has met you a few times in-game and doesn't like you or trust you further than he could throw an ulbernaut.

Well... you trust him more than some people. I personally do trust Vannaka. But thats becuase I seem to know him more than others. Who just judge him becuase he used to be PoC.

Well honestly I don't mind him distrusting my character, that's perfectly reasonable if he knows Vannaka well enough... although I don't actually recall meeting Mythryndel (however it appears i must have).  No idea how any of this crept into this particular thread though... perhaps someone should start a Vannaka thread.  It would do wonders for my ego.

[catarina]

perhaps someone should start a Vannaka thread.  It would do wonders for my ego.

Shyeah. Like your ego needs any help.

On topic, however....I heard about this little IC 'scam' as it was happening, and I personally thought it was brilliant. As far as I could tell, the people involved remained IC . It isn't their fault that there are others in Yliakum that are greedy and gullible enough to think that if they give up their worldly posessions and commit mass suicide, they will gain favor with a God(dess). I have to say to those involved, well played, and for those that 'had a change of heart' and decided to give most, if not all of the stuff back that was picked up after the greedy ones were whisked away to the death realm, all I have to say is: You big softy! lol

Peace,

~rina

[zanzibar]

[The characters involved will have a reputation for being chaotic evil if they keep the loot and chaotic good if they give the loot back.  Are we all friends again?]

[Lokter Tarvitz]

[yeah... well mostly.. Catarina.. im not a softy.. I was asked OOC by a Kran who had lost all his possesions to reutrn as much as i could.. Im still going to RP it through.. as are the others.]