[OOC: Roleplay or Scam?]

[zanzibar]

[yeah... well mostly.. Catarina.. im not a softy.. I was asked OOC by a Kran who had lost all his possesions to reutrn as much as i could.. Im still going to RP it through.. as are the others.]

[There are ways you can get the items back to him without breaking character.  Give his items to someone else, then tell him that you already sold his stuff to a trader near such and such a place.  Then he can go there and have fun with the trader who may take pity on him, or have a job for him to do.  Or whatever.]

[Lokter Tarvitz]

[Would do but im currently waiting to be arrested, they got Vannaka and Im guessing they are after the rest of us. But I am quite angry about the whole situation as "Xiosia herself revealed all the crimes we have ever commited to the gaurds" Now thats just a poor excuse to pin us down for something just so they dont get OOC hassle about taking no action.]

[This action also contradicts the idea that Xiosia has gone quiet for a while becuase of the BF backlash on the last couple of events]

[zanzibar]

[Would do but im currently waiting to be arrested, they got Vannaka and Im guessing they are after the rest of us. But I am quite angry about the whole situation as "Xiosia herself revealed all the crimes we have ever commited to the gaurds" Now thats just a poor excuse to pin us down for something just so they dont get OOC hassle about taking no action.]

[There is corruption among the guards and politicians of Hydlaa, perhaps they simply invented the story in order to make the arrests?]

[This action also contradicts the idea that Xiosia has gone quiet for a while becuase of the BF backlash on the last couple of events]

[Then the devs have gone back and forth on this, my character had a personal encounter with Laanx once and I was later told to erase it from my character's history because the gods were to never interact directly with characters.

Does anyone else think that this thread should be moved to the complaint department?]

[Lokter Tarvitz]

[Does anyone else think that this thread should be moved to the complaint department?]

[Me  ]

[Raa]

....HAAHAHAHA HEHEHE!

omglol

That's hilarious. Noobs!

[Raekh]

Still around here, Raa? Damn, already made the crosses, having been sure you left, damn xD

[Dajoji]

I'm gonna go a little off-topic here to clarify something:

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[There is corruption among the guards and politicians of Hydlaa, perhaps they simply invented the story in order to make the arrests?]

Have you come across any concrete indicator that there is indeed corruption among guards? Or maybe your assuming there is because that's what you would expect IRL?

I'm not saying there is NO corruption whatsoever but this is another assumption players are far too quick to make, just like when it comes to atheism, players tend to bring in their RL conclusions on the subject instead of seeing things through what the game is throwing at them. They forget essential things about Yliakum society like it's not a democracy, for example, or that the Bill of Rights differs greatly from one you'd find IRL, or that civil disobedience is the same thing as treason (or close enough), or that the concept of police brutality doesn't exist, etc. More importantly, people overlook the fact that the Octarchy has absolute control of Yliakum and citizens are raised and educated so they grow to love it and fight for it. It is the closest thing to perfection and things that taint that are probably swept under the rug. Common folk would not be comfortable talking about corruption.

In that context, your RP should not resort to accusations of corruption at first glance. Does that mean corruption doesn't exist? No. It means it shouldn't be your first reaction, the same way saying "Don't teach religion in schools" in Yliakum would make little or no sense at all. It's a different world. Do not break the immersion by letting OOC experiences rule over your RP.


@Lokter: Your character has nothing to hide from and you might want to wait till you see what happens before you get angry. Don't be that guy. You haven't even heard the whole story and you're coming close to spoiling it for others.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Cheers Dajoji!

This rp was clever. My first reaction was rather bad, but I do appreciate the cleverness.

Also an important factor for me: It was a player generated rp that involved a crowd, something that's been missing somewhat in game.

[Illysia]

I can appreciate the cleverness, but what I dislike of the matter is the fact that it does hinge on occ knowledge. If the GMs had not had the Xiosia giveaway this would not have worked. I'm not blaming the GMs, but that basically set people up. And true, a certain amount of greed was involved, but I still think people should have been given a little more warning... Unless someone organizes an RP retaliation on those who would disrespect believe in the gods.  My other problem with it is that is seems like there isn't much way to respond to it ICly except for: "Hey, that's wrong!" 

[Mythryndel]

Why isn't there a way to retaliate? This was a RP event, so those involved are RPers... who I assume (yes, I know what happens when you assume) would be willing to RP consequences if they can be brought ICly.

[zanzibar]

Have you come across any concrete indicator that there is indeed corruption among guards? Or maybe your assuming there is because that's what you would expect IRL?

It's revealed through quests.

This has nothing to do with atheism.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Myth believe that it is the same people moderating the game as running official events . . . we got our eyes on folks.

For my perspective it goes like this: bad guys get crapped on enough by carebears so it's nice to see some badness carried off well.

For Xiosia's perspective: How dare those heathens impersonate my clergy?

We will have to wait and see how things play out . . . tune in next week!

Last note: I take personal responsibility for the genesis of the original Xiosia event, gms threw subsequent events but they did so with my approval, ultimately do not blame the gms (credit them for what is good, but blame me for what is bad).

[Dajoji]

This has nothing to do with atheism.

Not regarding the topic itself but it does share the fact that people are failing to acknowledge the settings led by their own RL convictions, not the experience their characters would have.

[zanzibar]

This has nothing to do with atheism.

Not regarding the topic itself but it does share the fact that people are failing to acknowledge the settings led by their own RL convictions, not the experience their characters would have.

Not even slightly.  The proof is in the quests added to the game by the settings team.  You're injecting your own personal beliefs into the discussion.

[Parallo]

Not regarding the topic itself but it does share the fact that people are failing to acknowledge the settings led by their own RL convictions, not the experience their characters would have.

This would be true if atheism in PS matched it's actual definition which it doesn't. Saying everyone in PS must worship a god is like saying everyone in RL must get health insurance. It helps, it's nice to have a net, but not everyone is willing to spend the time/money/effort to get that net and will not worship/get health insurance.

edit: Wow, I was almost positive this was in the other thread... I feel dumb now.