[Organisation] The Tyndale Trading Company

[Donari Tyndale]

[I ask for Zanzibars post to be removed. It contributes absolutely nothing to this thread and is pure spam. I'm a notorious noob hater and beware of my history as PLer.]

[Mythryndel]

I have a few questions, as a potential investor.

1. Are there still shares available?

2. How frequently do you plan to hold shareholder meetings?

3. Can the shares be put in the name of a guild as opposed to an individual?
   A. If yes, would I be able to list 2 individuals besides myself as rightful shareholders? I know this may complicate things, but I would want my officers to be able to have full participation in the meetings, if we decide (as a guild) to invest in your company.

I may have more questions, but we may also be interested in establishing trade of some kind with your organization as our guilds purpose is in-line with your stated goals. Namely to establish a stable economy and access to goods and services available for sale to all inhabitants of Y'liakum.

[Donari Tyndale]

1. 88% of all shares are still available.

2. Yearly IC, two month RL time.

3. Naturally. You can name your guild as shareholder and have your officers given full authority to vote and participate on behalf of the whole guild.

[Vannaka]

1% by Vannaka Touchstone.
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The average value of a percent of the total shares is currently at 50000 tria.

If the average value is 50,000 tria for a percent, then why did I have to fight for half an hour to end up with only 1% for an investment of 100k, plus the promise of 400k later after certain other conditions are met?

[Donari Tyndale]

Stupid you! . Tolian scammed you, what else? Your worst fears have gotten true. . Actually, not. Vannaka invested his money into the company, that means he gave the company his money so it can multiply it. Investing does not equal selling. Invested money still belongs to the investor. So Vannaka still has his 100k tria. And a percent of the shares for free. If he invests more 400k, he has 500k invested. If the shares are priced at 50k each, Vannaka earns 5*50k tria, since the investment is still his, however, he receives no interest for it as a special condition. 250k tria earned by a few words and yet you complain? On why Tolian did this, the answer is simple: Vannaka was the first to invest and had a large sum of money available. In order to expand, the company needed that money, so Tolian gave Vannaka the 5% for "free".

Edited to make sense.

[Prolix]

So what you are saying is that the company has two income streams apart from any revenue from actual operations, the investor stream and the sale of shares. Investments get interest on their moneys which is repayable at some date in the future. The shareholder stream gets dividends but can only recoup their money by selling their shares? Is that accurate?

I am guessing if it is accurate then the interest rate and term for investments is negotiable, also that the share price will be stable until a certain portion (>50%?) has been sold and their value is allowed to float. Is that correct?

[Donari Tyndale]

Yes, your observations are all accurate.

[Prolix]

I also gather that at some point you will stop accepting investors in favor of shareholders because you will not need more money than can be gained by selling shares and you do not wish to create more liabilities that must be repaid.

[Donari Tyndale]

Yes, however that is an OOC limitation. It will be expanded as PS and the company grow.

[Prolix]

I would not see that as out of character, should you need funds in the future after all shares are sold you could accept investors again instead of diluting the share pool.

[Donari Tyndale]

Oh, the investment possibilities are limited by the areas accessible

[Prolix]

True enough but to much money from loans and your cash in hand will get eaten up by interest payments. Not a lot of point in too rapid expansion if you cannot manage the operations effectively.
I would think you would relatively quickly stop borrowing money while there are still shares to be sold, unless you have a specific need for money immediately. No point borrowing money that is going to sit and deplete.

[Donari Tyndale]

Indeed, I will see how the sale of shares goes.

[Prolix]

well where is your sales office?

[Donari Tyndale]

Contracts are mostly made in the tavern for now