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Re: Community Check...
« Reply #75 on: November 28, 2009, 03:26:18 am »
I would have overlooked that too. But in the "faces" thread, for every the one and only hot chick...
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« Reply #76 on: November 28, 2009, 11:26:20 am »
* Auran shakes fist @Sarras
Danged kids! Git off mah lawn  :@#\.

I miss the PS chicks I used to RP hitting on(which way pretty much every girl or every one pretending to be a girl ;D). I especially miss the ones that RPed back, spurning my advances. Like my princess. I like em hard to get  ;).

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« Reply #77 on: November 28, 2009, 11:33:22 am »
My my my, doesn't this bring back memories? Somebody go hunt up Druke, Seperot, Tybalt, and Kada and we could sing "hail, hail, the gang's all here..."

I wonder what the odds are of the game/community ever getting to a stage that a large number of us would be seriously tempted to actually play again.

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« Reply #78 on: November 28, 2009, 11:44:21 am »
Oh snap Auran, you make me feel like an ancient Egyptian pharaoh who just woke up in today's New York.
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« Reply #79 on: November 28, 2009, 06:58:46 pm »
I wonder what the odds are of the game/community ever getting to a stage that a large number of us would be seriously tempted to actually play again.

The new release is coming! Once it's working right....  :-\ it'll be worth coming back. Even I like it overall.  ;D Come back when it gets released to Laanx... all of you.... really, I mean it! :P *waves her wooden spoon at all the oldbies for good measure* The Stonehead Tavern should be better than ever after it is released. :D

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« Reply #80 on: November 28, 2009, 09:44:33 pm »
Kid, it doesn't matter there's a new version coming up. Planeshift is not an executable pushed by a majestic double click, that leads towards a world filled with magic in which you can gain a few more levels. Planeshift is more than that. Planeshift means its community, its guilds, its goals along with the crazy old bastard who tries to conquer the entire realm. And for the moment, all these seem hidden to me.

But of course, the Black Order is a whisper who's turning into a very powerful scream.
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« Reply #81 on: November 28, 2009, 10:50:54 pm »
Kid, it doesn't matter there's a new version coming up. Planeshift is not an executable pushed by a majestic double click, that leads towards a world filled with magic in which you can gain a few more levels. Planeshift is more than that. Planeshift means its community, its guilds, its goals along with the crazy old bastard who tries to conquer the entire realm. And for the moment, all these seem hidden to me.

But of course, the Black Order is a whisper who's turning into a very powerful scream.

Kid?  ::| I'll have you know I've been around for the last 4 or 5 years(I lost track a long time ago. ;D ) And yes, PS is more than button clicking. However, if the community is hidden for you, take a bow. It's oldbies like you not being in game making that happen.  ::) :P If the community doesn't seem developed, it might be because of people not playing after a year or two. It takes awhile to build up community and if people leave before that stuff gets established or establish something and leave, i.e. end up dropping the RP, it will stay that way till people come back...

Long story short. Be the RP you want to see.  :P AKA get in game.  ;) Show us how it's done. :D

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« Reply #82 on: November 29, 2009, 01:59:03 am »
So basically, you want us to do all the work because no one else is competent enough to? How tempting. What loyalty do we owe to PS if we're the ones making it good?

I've been "back" several times, and it's not that there's nothing decent going on, but there's so much mediocrity (or down right awfulness) that it's really difficult to start anything really well done when the community as a whole doesn't seem to hold that as a standard.

To sum up, it's a little unrealistic to expect us to return, when returning would require every one of us to take leadership roles and hold ourselves to standards that most of the community isn't even attempting.

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« Reply #83 on: November 29, 2009, 02:06:49 am »
my two cents:

stop complaining and get it done. nothing happens when you whine. so get out there and do something you lousy wimps.

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Re: Community Check...
« Reply #84 on: November 29, 2009, 02:21:51 am »
stop complaining

You've never met the Planeshift Community, have you?

you lousy wimps.

Well now my feelings are hurt.

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« Reply #85 on: November 29, 2009, 02:30:22 am »
hey ho from another not so old oldbie but still... sure feel old when most of the so called old guys leave :'(
oh btw... i still play :P


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« Reply #86 on: November 29, 2009, 03:46:06 am »
Sarras, each one of us has individually done more for the PS community than you have done or will do in the next three years, so until you have enough experience to actually make your point of view in any way valid, I'm going to take the liberty of ignoring you.

Besides, you hurt Timmothy's feelings, and although I have no idea who he is, I won't stand for that!

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« Reply #87 on: November 29, 2009, 05:38:40 am »
Well folks, us oldbies do have some grievances from the state of game play like Phiney or Annah stated. And to acknowledge the newbies and midbies points, it might be because we don't play and participate in the community enough that we have them. But the fact remains that oldbies(or atleast I) leave because of two main reasons:

1. No one can go on forever:

As has been often said: The game isn't the binary file. Its what we invent. Me and my buddies (like annah, phiney, other old coots) here had a good thing going once. The game and the community interactions had a theme and that theme was evildoers sabotaging guilds and bringing mayhem to fulfill their ultimate( and classic) objective of ruling the world. The good guys tried stop them and due to the nature of the conflict almost everyone else had to get involved. The upshot of the entire scenario was that there was high drama everywhere. It was fun for some, not so fun for others but we had a game. But in time the sameness got to us all. It was just some of us masterminding the entire thing. And when we didn't want to do it anymore (due to whatever reasons) the whole thing died out. The new folks did not step in to carry it forward. And so the game lost a piece of its culture. So yeah some initiative from you all would be much appreciated.

So @Illysia, Timothy, Sarras and folks: If you need help or ideas, I am at your service personally. Just email me. But to expect me to reinvent it all again...lets just say I am older and have a fuller plate IRL to do it all again. Invent something fun and I'll play for sure. I still spend 5 to 10 hours a week gaming.

2. Not enough people try to RP:

See we all have our lives and are strangers IRL. Yeah some of us will know each other personally but thats besides the point. However here I find a lot of people forming cliques of pals and so forth and trying to use this as an extension for RL friendships and relations. Like that one guy talking about his wife and kids in the faces thread. Thats cool, I have nothing against it. But you lost me at that point. I can't participate in that.

I don't know you and there's no reason I need to. When I come here I should take a look at your name, hear you speak, look at your sig and go:
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Hmm. Here's Timmothy Perriwinkle. He sounds like a ghey bard. OMG what a fairy! My ranger and him have got to be enemies
And so I'll have a basis of interaction with Timothy.

I don't need to know that Sarras needed help with homework because she flunks math or summin. I just need to know that she plays a dwarven blacksmith (maybe). But lo and behold, for most of the people here I know no such thing. So I have no basis of interacting with them. So the bottom line is: People need to RP most of the time and be real people as an exception. I can be best friend or mentor or lover or sworn enemy of Illysia the tavern wench. But the real person behind that, I might like her too but its not a requisite for my enjoyment of her in-game company.

In an MMORPG, the RP is important. Do it always. Never forget who you are supposed to be. Look at Annah's example:

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But of course, the Black Order is a whisper who's turning into a very powerful scream.

Now we all know BO is more of a fart than a whisper ;D but that's not the point. The point is, Annah plays his character and doesnt forget his agenda. If everyone did that, you have the beginning of RP. And then we oldbies can also fit into the game because IRL we probably wont.

Here's a fun idea for all the current players of PS: I am willing to help you setup a game. If any 5 of you are interested, get together and PM me.

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Re: Community Check...
« Reply #88 on: November 29, 2009, 06:18:47 am »
So basically, you want us to do all the work because no one else is competent enough to? How tempting. What loyalty do we owe to PS if we're the ones making it good?

I've been "back" several times, and it's not that there's nothing decent going on, but there's so much mediocrity (or down right awfulness) that it's really difficult to start anything really well done when the community as a whole doesn't seem to hold that as a standard.

To sum up, it's a little unrealistic to expect us to return, when returning would require every one of us to take leadership roles and hold ourselves to standards that most of the community isn't even attempting.

No one can RP well in vacuum the problem is not really bad RP, but good RPers keeping quiet because "the RP is bad" around them. It's like saying "I'll never talk again because the people around me are saying stupid stuff..." The simpler solution is to ignore them and keep RPing. When all is said and done, at least they are attempting it. You might be good but if you stop RPing what difference does it make? ::) Beside, isn't starting up RPs what everybody who RPs well does?


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So @Illysia, Timothy, Sarras and folks: If you need help or ideas, I am at your service personally. Just email me. But to expect me to reinvent it all again...lets just say I am older and have a fuller plate IRL to do it all again. Invent something fun and I'll play for sure. I still spend 5 to 10 hours a week gaming.

2. Not enough people try to RP:

See we all have our lives and are strangers IRL. Yeah some of us will know each other personally but thats besides the point. However here I find a lot of people forming cliques of pals and so forth and trying to use this as an extension for RL friendships and relations. Like that one guy talking about his wife and kids in the faces thread. Thats cool, I have nothing against it. But you lost me at that point. I can't participate in that.

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...So the bottom line is: People need to RP most of the time and be real people as an exception. I can be best friend or mentor or lover or sworn enemy of Illysia the tavern wench. But the real person behind that, I might like her too but its not a requisite for my enjoyment of her in-game company.

Well, said, but.... *waves her wooden spoon at Auran* tavern wench?!? You've been reading those books by Tonial haven't you?  :P But seriously, If you want to collaborate on RPs we can do that. I won't be able to get into until my semester is over, but once I have free time I will be getting back in game and getting the tavern back as active as I can.

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Re: Community Check...
« Reply #89 on: November 29, 2009, 06:23:02 am »
Hmm. Here's Timmothy Perriwinkle. He sounds like a ghey bard.

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