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Re: Community Check...
« Reply #255 on: October 18, 2010, 04:23:12 am »
Ooh, then we need something dull and repetitive that will turn his mind off so that he doesn't have to actually concentrate on it.... I know, get him a pick axe and send him to te gold mines. You can always put the extra gold in the Empire's stores or what have you...

*runs off to go rummage through Rinenud's things*

Wheee.... I'll mind the delicate things like the crystal and sanity...

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« Reply #256 on: October 18, 2010, 06:43:13 pm »
Drugs, just say "no".

Stop trying to ruin my life. I need them to like me.
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« Reply #257 on: October 19, 2010, 02:54:56 pm »
Sorry for the double post. But I think I should do a small summary about the evolution of the RP Community in PS, through the years I've been around, so as to situate the reader at the actual time. Due to some ridiculous threads about RP I have come to think this is utterly necessary.

Era 1: Before the Fighting System
November 13, 2003
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ROFLMAO

I thought this was worth some discussion (read: I can\'t not touch this) but it\'s more related to guild section than GD :rolleyes:

Check out this link  that the Forsaken Ones have uncovered using their new ultra-secret spies in the Cabal\'s own PUBLIC (yes, that\'s right, public) forum.

Hahahahahahahahaha........
This was pretty much the high point of RP in that time. The only thing that's actually compliant to the setting is the expression of feelings, which is currently allowed. There is no IC or OOC in this period, there's just doing whatever little you can, be it hacking, infiltrating forums or simply annoying someone by jumping them with your char.
Forums are the main battle ground, though plenty of times people take the forum discussion to the 3D version of IRC.

Era 2: The Divergence (Or the creation of RPers and PLers)
September 03, 2007
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who has money in a game where you were able to mine gold and get money 24/7? Correct, the powerlevellers. And what piece of the pie do the roleplayers, those that spent their time enhancing the community with their roleplay instead of mining, get? Not much..

Suddenly there is fighting, crafting comes in as well and lots of stuff happen. So, it's fun to be in-game now. Well, at least mildly. But everything's mild around here anyway.

Forums become more irrelevant, now a mere distorted mirror of what happens in-game.

From the undifferentiated goo that was the population of the previous era, two races rise. The PLers (powerlevelers) that endlessly mine the caves of game mechanics and the RPers ("roleplayers") who fanatically pursuit the exploitation of the setting.
As happens with all humans, differences generate war. Also PLers don't want to tire themselves with knowing or respecting the setting and RPers don't want to get their butts kicked by those dirty PLers.
At this time RP wasn't enforced in any way, so you could pretty much do anything you liked, besides being overly rude to people.
Though people say PLers and RPers are incompatible, there were many types of half breeds: PLers who played themselves in-game, RPers who PLed in their free time to the point of creating an amorfous char.

(The quote selected isn't the best for this case, since at the time it was mentioned the problem was already being solved, but it expresses it well.)

Era 3: Current Era
October 29, 2008
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Would you like to see roleplaying more strictly enforced and more highly encouraged on Laanx?
Developers ask RPers if they want RP more strictly enforced? "Hell yeah!" say the RPers, finally seeing themselves in the last 3 letters at the end of MMORPG.
The developers throw the PLers into a dark abyss and give Zeroping to the RPers who revel in their new, almost empty world. But RPers aren't happy yet. Why? Well they are so creative that each of them can have their own idea about it. The reality is that the system is still in development, settings team has to fix quests rather than improving the concept (making quests roleplayble), there seems to be no time to create general or side plots (settings team/GM oriented) and the GM's aren't perfect human beings and neither do they have the ability to mind read and tell right away who is right or wrong (keep in mind I am one of those creative RPers.)

Meanwhile, at the abyss, PLers do their thing without a worry on their silly heads.

Conclusion
PlaneShift is heading somewhere and taking its community with it. The game went from 3D IRC to MMORPG, while we evolved from bored trolls to mediocre RPers. Since the crying and drama has been continuous, like most other inputs that have been present through all PS's life, I think the conditions of our improvement remain and we're headed for even more greatness.
Please keep with your critiques, dumb opinions and whatnot. Just pipe down on the drama, since there doesn't seem to be much reason for it.
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« Reply #258 on: October 19, 2010, 05:11:01 pm »
logic isn't allowed on the internet Sangy, sorry.

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« Reply #259 on: October 19, 2010, 06:06:52 pm »


Nice summary Sangwa. This divergence, which preoccupies the more mediocre elements on this forum, is an entirely self-inflicted wound, and one that is actually more apparent than real. Perhaps once the atmosphere here becomes more congenial one can address this.



You forgot a comma.
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« Reply #260 on: October 19, 2010, 06:33:14 pm »
Why didn't you guys mention that Sangwa was clairvoyant? Since he was gone for at least 3 years in that long span of time, it means he would have to be psychic to know what actually happened in game during that time because you really can't go by the forums for anything useful. ;) But as for the forums, that divide has largely been resolved as many RPers and PLers just decided to settle their differences by sulking in opposite corners away from PS while blaming each other for everything in their minds.

And on an even further off topic note, if it works for cheese I imagine it can work for Jekkar too.

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« Reply #261 on: October 19, 2010, 06:58:40 pm »
Oh, it's really quite simple. The more disagreeable something is, like for instance being stinky, the more of a delicacy it is likely to be. That being the case, Jekkar might want to avoid foodie places lest he be considered a delicacy.

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« Reply #262 on: October 19, 2010, 09:53:23 pm »
I'm surprised you didn't notice it earlier, dear Illysia.

This divergence, which preoccupies the more mediocre elements on this forum, is an entirely self-inflicted wound, and one that is actually more apparent than real. Perhaps once the atmosphere here becomes more congenial one can address this.

Agreed. I was just mentioning what was considered at the time, not what I felt about it. The RPer vs PLer issue was idiotic. The actual question of the day was RP enforcement, I think. We'll speak of the past somewhere else though, right?

It is  your dependence on illegal substances that has ruined you old boy, not I. Denial: the mark of an addict.

Hey, I'm just denying your offensive approach to drugs here. They save lives, they build empires and they please me.


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« Reply #263 on: October 19, 2010, 11:01:42 pm »
As long as it pleases Sangwa.....
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« Reply #264 on: October 20, 2010, 02:06:48 am »
As long as it pleases Sangwa.....

If only everyone was half as smart as you...
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« Reply #265 on: October 20, 2010, 02:42:07 am »
* Caraick grins

You amuse me, Sangwa, that is all.  ;D
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« Reply #266 on: October 20, 2010, 09:51:38 am »
* Caraick grins

You amuse me, Sangwa, that is all.  ;D

Entertainment is what we're all here for. Besides Illysia, she's just here to get annoyed.
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« Reply #267 on: October 20, 2010, 05:03:38 pm »
Oh. So you only make good remarks purposelessly... Very interesting.

Junkies are also responsible for 80% of all art created, so don't be cautious, be thankful.
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« Reply #268 on: October 20, 2010, 06:52:33 pm »
Besides Illysia, she's just here to get annoyed.

Actually, I'm here for Rinenud.

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« Reply #269 on: October 20, 2010, 07:33:54 pm »
Oh, it's really quite simple. The more disagreeable something is, like for instance being stinky, the more of a delicacy it is likely to be. That being the case, Jekkar might want to avoid foodie places lest he be considered a delicacy.

Not only am I delicious but healthy for you too.
It's funny though, last summer I had a camambert in France, it had ripened so well the second I put the fork towards my face the smell gave me a out-of-body experience. I imagine it would be this for many people too once they'd get a wiff of Jekkar.

To stay on topic: welcome back Phinehas.
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