Weekly roleplay lessons

[Akkaido Kivikar]

I'm of a mixed mind about this.

Yes, it would be nice to "teach RP" but in my opinion, newbs learn RP in a couple of days, and either adapt and learn from there or completely fly in the face of it, like **** and *****.

Yes, having 'classes' or even Q&A sessions would be a good idea, held in a Group tab perhaps...

Just remember that each player is in control of their character, if they want to be a typical Warrior/Merchant/Mage and max stats and learn skills and grind, they shouldn't be discouraged, as I know Donari has a personal dislike for anything of the sort.

So BASICS should be taught, but not "do things this way, our opinion of mechanics is this, you do/don't have to do that"...

Mostly focus on where IC/OOC is appropriate and go for gold.

Oh, wait, with Donari banned... who will run the school?

[Edit: no naming and shaming please]

[Mathy Stockington]

Akkaido I think Illysia would be a great role play teacher. I have learnt a great deal from her myself and a certain wonderful dwarf that would bring me back in game in a instant if he returned. Actually there were two dwarfs that taught me a great deal. If they came back it would be a great day for PlaneShift.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=25723.30

I will point you here again as a good starting point, there you will find all the binds the vespers used to aid newbs and some of the critique. Maybe someone can adopt those and adapt them for use today.

Everyone that mathy is playing violins over missing was playing back then so . . . "don't cry for me Argentina!"

[Mathy Stockington]

Everyone that mathy is playing violins over missing was playing back then so . . . "don't cry for me Argentina!"

I would make a formal complaint against Xillix but that does no good. Truly there is no reason for you to be so rude Xillix. Has anyone told you that even the boss can be nice? Mine bought me lunch the other day because of a job well done. We work harder for kind people. It is a known fact.

[zanzibar]

http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=25723.30

I will point you here again as a good starting point, there you will find all the binds the vespers used to aid newbs and some of the critique. Maybe someone can adopt those and adapt them for use today.

To people not named Xillix:  I'd have to look through them, but I know some of the old binds have things like links to websites and OOC text.  My preference would be for those parts to be removed (they eventually were anyway).

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Mathy

You imply that

A) I am not nice to those working for me

and

B) That you are working for me

Neither is true.


Back on topic: To me it'd be nice if people considered using (albeit reworked for modern needs) the structure already created for helping noobs that definitely worked (with its problems and troubles) to retain new players.

We are taking steps to make sure that more new players make it through the tutorial and that people know that they are on a rp server when they get on Laanx.

We hope it will help, but in the end the players really are the last line of defense for player retention. I can't be counted on for that because I just tell people I don't like to leave.

[zanzibar]

By 2006, a lot of people had already left the community.  In 2005, a very high profile player and dev member left the community, saying that so many faces had come and gone that PlaneShift no longer felt like the family it once was to her.

I very much doubt that Mathy is the only person that misses people.  Mathy just seems to be more vocal about it.  My personal belief is nostalgia is a burden when it comes to things like this....

Back on topic, however you decide to teach roleplay, make sure your number one priority is making it fun.

[Donari Tyndale]

Akkaido, me being banned doesn't mean I can't teach others. To this point, one fundamental thing has not been adressed. When would be the best time to hold the lessons? On the weekend? Weekdays?

[zanzibar]

Are banned players usually allowed to post to the forum?  When I was banned, I wasn't allowed to visit the forum, or even irc...  I'm not complaining, I think it's important for Donari to continue posting here.  I'm just wondering what the rule is.

[Donari Tyndale]

I am not permitted to play for three months. You were banned from the forum for flaming here

[Mathy Stockington]

Mathy

You imply that

A) I am not nice to those working for me

and

B) That you are working for me

Neither is true.

I get sick of the mopey "back in the day" thing you do Mathy. I've really had enough of it. You can report me all you want but more useful would be if you really did quit and stopped posting melodramatic crap on the forums. People want progress and action not longing for a bygone time.

Xillix why bother responding to my post if you deleted it? Maybe there is to much censorship here. Should I ask Parallo if this is true? I wish this community well in it's wish to bring back role play to PlaneShift.

By 2006, a lot of people had already left the community.  In 2005, a very high profile player and dev member left the community, saying that so many faces had come and gone that PlaneShift no longer felt like the family it once was to her.

I very much doubt that Mathy is the only person that misses people.  Mathy just seems to be more vocal about it.  My personal belief is nostalgia is a burden when it comes to things like this....

Back on topic, however you decide to teach roleplay, make sure your number one priority is making it fun.

zanzibar do you ever wonder why these people have moved on? And yes it does change the way PlaneShift feels. We used to be a family. That is missing and I do not mind saying so.

[zanzibar]

zanzibar do you ever wonder why these people have moved on?

Not really.  Since I've been in contact with so many people behind the scenes so often, I have a pretty good idea.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

no one removed your post mathy, what in the heck are you on about?

Earlier posts of Parallo and Rinehud were removed because they were flaimbaiting YOU.

We shut them down because they were rude and uncalled for.

now let's stick to the topic (one of a million) about how to get rp back.

[Mathy Stockington]

Opps. Even the best of the best make mistakes Xillix. I know how great I am but for just once I will have to say I am sorry because I made a mistake and did not see my post was still there. You can be certain it will not happen again. Us great ones do not make the same mistake twice if we ever make mistakes at all.

[Here is a role play idea players. Now use that and role play it in game. It is not hard. Just use your imagination.]

[Akkaido Kivikar]

No offence Mathy, but what is the point on you posting on this thread when you don't play the game, and aren't willing to come back unless things got exciting enough for you. We need players to post ideas for how and where to have these lessons, and have teachers volunteer time and energy into teaching open RP (as in not the Nazi type, and not the OOC-is-ok type).

This thread has nothing to do with the birth, death, and flow of dynasties of favourite RPers through Planeshift. It's about ensuring the endurance of RP through educating the younger players.