Renaming Atheism to Misotheism

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

You bring your real world definitions to PS.

We're defining it differently in PS, and despite the tone in character creation (which reflects the attitudes of the society, not the individual) atheism is a faction and as suck is intended to confer some advantages in future implementation.

[Raekh]

We're defining it differently in PS

Maybe you should start a glossary.
I remember a few discussions that circled around definitions, at the end it turned out that PS just uses a different definition for a common word.
Say you would use "globe" in PS. People assume you are referring to something round, but due to your own definition it is rectangular.
How can you wonder why people misunderstand?

So, not only in this case but in general, if you use a common human languange, better use the same common definitions. To derive from this I neither find any original, nor is it any user friendly.

Why not simply call it heathendom, disbelief or faithlessness?

[Prolix]

Results 1 - 10 of about 7,160 for misotheism Hardly a common word, especially when you consider 1 - 10 of about 7,820,000 for atheism. Of those misotheism hits I imagine the largest portion will be wikipedia and its rip-offs followed by definitions. Common correct usage will be quite limited especially considering the limited totality of hits.

Not only that but not everyone that does not follow any particular god does so because they hate the gods (the actual definition of the term) so its usage is no more accurate than the more familiar atheist.

Give it up, your esoteric term will never cut it.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

For what it is worth people are dealing with trouble over a HIGHLY CONTEXTUALIZED term that is used only in character creation and is clearly defined there.

If it doesn't accord with the real world well guess what?

The real world doesn't have Klyros, Kormi, or Kadaikos...

Let's just really open up the discussion.

You rewrite for me how Atheism should be described in character creation and you determine how many variants settings should write for, and what factions we should add to the game, and what different versions of non-belief should be considered.

I will make sure we do our best to take your modern nuanced sensibilities and add them all to the game so long as you consider that this isn't a world like ours.

The gods ARE real, their manifestations occur in game often, and whatever distinctions you identify as ABSOLUTELY VITAL to making sure your view of the universe is included in the settings may cost strangers thousands of hours of their donated time to manifest for you in the game.

If you do that, I'll do my best to consider your positions earnestly.

[verden]

The point is Atheism is NOT the "proper" term, and Misotheism, having the correct definition, would be appropriate to use as a replacement.

YES it is, within Yliakum. PlaneShift is a simulation, therefore the word is used as a SYMBOL not an IDEA. You are correct in your definition of the IRL meanings of the ideas, but the IRL meanings do not apply here.

Why? Do you know of any?

No. But I know a joke when I hear one. Come down off the hobby horse, we have more fun down here, and the grand cause of the atheists can survive an off-reference in one game... thousands of other ideas have survived similar treatment within simulations over the years.

[Bguy]

No. But I know a joke when I hear one.

Apparently you don't. 

[Waylander]

All the arguments for keeping atheism are rather silly.  It was alright to redefine atheism before we thought of just using the proper term but, if there is one, why not use it?  Besides the tedious work it would entail, of course.  I say change it.  The few people who go "huh?" now, due to the change will be worth the thousands fewer who go "Sweet, I can be an atheist" without actually reading what PS's definition of it is later.  As for foreign people being more familiar with "Atheism" than "Misotheism", just define it in CC.

"We have our own definition of Atheism" is a poor excuse for not using the real world proper term.  One might be wise to remember we're using a real world language after all.

But do what you want, as I'm sure you would have had I not said that

The real world doesn't have Klyros, Kormi, or Kadaikos...

But the real world does have atheists, unlike Yliakum.  And if Kormi meant high class stripper in English I doubt we'd use it the way we do in PS

[verden]

If we follow that logic we need to change "kikiri" back to "chicken". Lot of work for not much benefit, IMHO. Especially considering that everyone knows exactly what is implied by atheism, even if the nuances of the application of the idea to Yliakum take some getting used to.

[Prolix]

It wouldn't bother me if you change it but what are you going to call those people who just do not care about the gods. Why do you have to call people anything? make the option in CC "follow no god" instead of  pigeon holing people inappropriately. God fearing Yliakis will just call them nuts anyway. If I heard someone say "you misotheist" in game or out I'd just look at them funny and discount anything further they had to say as the utterances of a pretentious fool.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Since this is clearly headed downward I am locking this.

We'll take it under consideration.