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Gohra

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interracial families
« on: June 27, 2009, 06:46:58 pm »
Hi, i'm not sure i i'm right here,
i have a short question about the PS world to discuss.

It's official known (ingame sources) that different races can make kids together.
It's official known that Ynnwn are hybridsof dermorians nd Diaoli.
But whats with other couples? Can a mother born a chil from  different race? The library of Harnquist isn't clearly about.
For example a specific case:
A Ynnwn female married a dermorian. Can their kids be Ynnwn AND/OR pure Dermorian or sometimes also pure Diaboli (Because the mother has both genes)?
Are Ynnwns the only mix or will there be more? E.G. a book says, the first Stronghand was  a dwarf born a Diaboli.

And what's with the social status? I know, racism is illgal by otarchial degree but between 12 races there maybe is some kind of. Do you hink, there are races who avoid interracial love and would call a mix child a "basterd" or is it normal in Yliakum society?

I ask because i'm writing a short stoy where the main character is planned as Diaboli, who has an unknown (i would like to use) dermorian sister/half sister and they lost in childhood. I know, Ynnwn would be easier to explain, but a beautiful dermorian woman is the complete mirror of a dark Diaboli bad-guy, what'll be the main aspect of the story. Feel free to discuss about this theme, i would like to read dfferent ideas.
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Re: interracial families
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2009, 07:59:49 pm »
Inter racial marriage and reproduction is entirely normal and accepted behaviour, times have been hard for all the races and there is no time nor tolerance for racism. Any social status is entirely derived from the parents status not race

And to answer your first question the race of the offspring of a mixed race couple is entirely down to the will of the gods.

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Re: interracial families
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2009, 02:36:25 am »
But limiting acceptance into a guild/clan based on race is perfectly fine, amirite?

I'd hate for my lawful clan to be breaking the law by superiorising Kore Enkidukai as the commanders of our clan, due to the militant structuring of the clan in RP.

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Re: interracial families
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2009, 01:25:36 pm »
Well if I read it right it's fine aslong as you select on certain skills that Kore Enkidukai have, but legally it wouldn't be right to exclude someone who has the same skills but happens to be a dermorian.

Then again there are stil enkie cities and kran villages so having a guild with mostly one race wouldn't be to strange either. This whole "there is no racism" is something I have to say lacks realism seeing how the world is build.
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Re: interracial families
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2009, 10:47:55 am »
This whole "there is no racism" is something I have to say lacks realism seeing how the world is build.

It's only because you don't have the full picture yet, when all is revealed then to be racist in game will be the attitude that lacks realism. Instead of saying this lacks realism or that isn't like that in RL use some imagination and work with what has been released.

@Akkaido: Just because your guild is enki/Kore only doesnt make it racist :)
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Re: interracial families
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2009, 11:45:04 am »
Hello

I would assume it is just normal and accepted that there are interracial families  - but, the same time, it could be natural for each kind to just prefer to live near and amoung similar people (thus, the race they belong to). For the enkis it is part of the settings even if I remember correctly.

But I think the original question was about which races can get childs together...

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Re: interracial families
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2009, 03:50:58 pm »
An in game book explains this fully.

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2009, 01:14:01 pm »
As for biology what I understand from "Important medical facts" is
1) Klyros and Kran can't have hybrid kids. They can only adopt them.
2) All other can have halfbreeds. The kid inherits race of one of the parents. Or Diaboli and Elf can have Ynnwn kid.

More intresting is social aspect of it, especially for Kran and Klyros. Klyros' life is short if to compare with others. So marrige of Klyros and for example Elf will result in couple with no children and probably Klyros will pass away first, in some sense having wasted his/her life leaving no children.  His/her wife/husband will have a long life ahead with possibility to have offspring in next marriges.

So most like Klyros somewhat dislike idea of crossracial marriges for their kind.

And for Kran... Well, since they are asexual it is... complicated...

I don't think any other prejudges are strong in Yliakum, or if they are then they are more about religion (if Laanx-worshipper marry Talad-worshipper, their children will be raise in faith of which god?).

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Re: interracial families
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2009, 01:10:55 am »
Thanks oryour coments, i think i know what i'm writing about now.
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2009, 02:40:58 am »
I wonder what a baby with Kran & Dwarf parents would look like... or Klyros & Dwarf... a giant dwarf and a flying dwarf?
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2009, 03:01:33 am »
I wonder what a baby with Kran & Dwarf parents would look like... or Klyros & Dwarf... a giant dwarf and a flying dwarf?

That's not possible, at all. Kran and Klyros, as mentioned earlier, can't have children with any other race. Kran are asexual, and Klyros lay eggs. This is why it's stupid that every person I see has a Kran and a Klyros listed as a sibling, when they're a Dermorian or something. If you know anyone who does this, explain things to them.

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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2009, 03:05:30 am »
This is why it's stupid that every person I see has a Kran and a Klyros listed as a sibling, when they're a Dermorian or something. If you know anyone who does this, explain things to them.
The person I know that does this makes it an ADOPTED sibling. They are still siblings so you can't say it is not possible.

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Re: interracial families
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2009, 02:34:57 pm »
This whole "there is no racism" is something I have to say lacks realism seeing how the world is build.

It's only because you don't have the full picture yet, when all is revealed then to be racist in game will be the attitude that lacks realism. Instead of saying this lacks realism or that isn't like that in RL use some imagination and work with what has been released.

@Akkaido: Just because your guild is enki/Kore only doesnt make it racist :)

I really doubt even with the full picture that I will think differently.

1. I am looking at what has already been released and more information wont change the fact that cities seem to all be raceoriented and that at creation you also have the option to have grown up in a village from an other race. . This would make it obvious that there are people who are proud of their villlage and couple this with the pride of their race

2. There are obviously big differences between the races. Both in the their lifespan but also differences in their outlook on life. Just think of the diaboli. This makes sure there has to be personal conflicts.

3. Before the octarchs the races even had wars over conflicts between the races. The wars may not be allowed anymore with the octarchs but the underlying causes of those wars can't just have gone away.

You might read this as a bashing and i asure you I don't intend it to be I am just disecting why I feel it is not realistic to say there are no interracial tensions.
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Re: interracial families
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2009, 03:19:49 pm »
Why does everyone want racism so badly?

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Re: interracial families
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2009, 03:37:43 pm »
It is not about wanting it.
Racism exists. If it didn't, it wouldn't be illegal.
The subject fits into the more general one: how to be evil in PS? What is an evil act or behaviour, how to be evil ICly without being OOC, what is acceptable in terms of family content, that sort of questions...
The thread is also about biological interrogations.