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[Guild] The Brigade
« on: August 26, 2009, 09:15:22 pm »
Introduction:
As the Octarchal Decree states "All citizens must be always  prepared to protect themselves and defend their property" and they must also have at least one year of armor and weapon training. The Brigade is a paramilitary organization that seeks to provide such training and services so that the people can meet these responsibilities. In times of need The Brigade will reinforce the Bronze Doors Squadrons, supplement the Hydlaa guard, and organize expeditions into the Stone Labyrinths for its plentiful resources.

Goals:
        -To provide training to citizens of Yliakum in basic weaponry and tactics
        -Organize a militia to deal with invasions from the Stone Labyrinths and other hostile intrusions
        -Assist the Hydlaa guards appropriately. Creating a citizens watch for criminals inside the walls and report them to the guards.

[OOC Goals: I want to create a 'goodie' RP guild. I want to have fun with RPing and get better at it as well as help other people get better at it. I want to put an emphasize on RP fighting and to help prevent/teach against 'god modding'. But I am by no means a perfect RPer and I am looking for support in this area. I want to take back Laanx as an RP server]

Requirements:
       -Potential recruits must be on good standing with the law and remain so throughout their career in The Brigade. We do not train or support criminals!
       -Must be of military age! We will train children old enough to throw stones and protect themselves with spears but they will not be able to become anything other than a trainee! We will not expose the elderly or young children to the dangers of being full time militia. [I will be looking into ages for different races. Basically it will be the equivalent of 17 cycles for humans]
       -Must be physically capable of combat. We will not except: the blind, hard of hearing, or the overly obese.

[OOC Requirements: Must be willing to RP. Must be willing to have fun and let others have fun. Must be willing to share RP ideas and help others (both guild and nonguild) with RP respectfully.]

Ranks:
Ranks are an important part of The Brigade and its organization. Some ranks will promote to the next while others are only upon request, allowing a troop to specialize in a particular role. Ranks are organized into four groups: Trainees, Soldiers, Officers, and Support

Trainees: Are the first two ranks. They are not full time militiamen and are either being trained to become one or trained to fulfill their duty to the Octarchy.
     Recruit: A troop will be placed in here to begin with. A minimum of one week in grade before promotion. Maximum of one month before discharged. They will be screened to see if they have what it takes to be a cadet. After one week, an instructor will promote a recruit when they think they are capable.
     Cadet: These are recruits who have shown they are cut out for The Brigade. They will receive lessons from their instructors on weaponry, tactics, and will take part in training exercises [guild events with trainees and instructors] to improve their endurance, strength, and combat effectiveness on the battlefield. They will also be tutored in some book knowledge and be given assignments to complete. To be eligible for promotion they must have completed the exam as well as taken part in at least three training exercises. To be officially promoted to full militia must be introduced to future commanding Captain and review time in grade with Instructor.
Soldiers: Are the majority of militiamen. They are the full time militia. Will be eligible to go on missions [guild events w/ or w/o other guilds and guests] and expeditions [events out in the wilderness that take place over the course of a few days]. Will be assigned under the command of a captain. Promoted from Cadet unless otherwise requested.
     Minuteman: Conventional warrior that is the bulk of the organization. Skilled at wielding either axes, swords, maces, or spears. Also knows how to handle shields and either is equipped with medium or heavy armor. Capable of working alongside other forces.
     Specialist: A warrior who chooses stealth over brute strength. Will be given special missions to gather information on criminal activities or scout out an area to set up a campus [place where an event will take place]; as well as support regular forces. Skilled at range, daggers, and spears. Uses light armor and travels light. Capable of moving into positions quickly and working with smaller groups.
Support: These troops are special jobs that must be requested upon graduation from the academy [refers to being promoted out of trainee and becoming a full time militiaman]. They work alongside other forces and help them. They heavy special responsibilities and are essential for keeping the militia functioning.
     Quartermaster: These administrators are in charge of all equipment the militia has to offer. They are responsible for finding, either through making or buying, and distributing all weapons, armor, and items standard for a troop. For missions they will bring along any special equipment needed as well as taking any food and repair kits needed to the site. If troops will be away for long they will make sure they have proper sleeping equipment like bedrolls or tents.
    Medicine Man: This support troop is responsible for looking after the well being of the troops. They are trained in traditional medicine and the healing arts. They also are encouraged to seek knowledge of herbs and potion making. During missions they are in charge of bringing along extra potions, bandages, blankets, and help with cooking equipment.
Officers: Officers are there to keep the militia running and functioning. They will be assigned to groups of troops and will give them orders as well as plan missions/exercises. They are the only ones who can invite new recruits to the militia. They are the only ones to promote troops. A Council of Officers will be held every three months to set new goals and talk about the development of the organization. A Council of Officers will also be called to review cadets ready for graduation, take disciplinary actions on full time militia, or review an application for a new officer. Officers are free to lead their troops how they see fit. To become an officer you need a minimum of three months in grade higher than cadet, two recommendations from Soldiers or Support, and one recommendation from an Officer.
    Captains Lead Soldiers and Support troops. Plan missions and organize their troops. Hold training clinics for their troops as they see necessary. They will be held accountable for how their troops work together and function as a small unit. May double as an Instructor when needed.
    Instructors Lead Trainees. They hold training exercises for cadets and may invited recruits or other guests [guild or not]. They are the only ones that can promote recruits and they decide when they are ready for promotion. May discharge recruit if they deem not capable for the militia. They are skilled teachers of everything one must know to be a Soldier. Some may tutor skills on becoming a Support role. Can hold recruitment centers and stands. They are essential to guild growth and carry a big responsibility.
   Commandant The head of the whole militia. He is in charge of everything and divides the work load between officers. He may also function as a lesser Officer or Support role where needed. Although he is in charge of the militia, he does not use it as a personal army. He reports to the Octarch of the Dome level (although this organization is not officially sponsored by the Octarchy, we hold an oath to him) and communicates with other organizations. Works with the Sunshine and Shadow Squadrons, Hydlaa Guard, and other lawful groups directly.

Our Oath: We are 'The Dome's Defenders". We support the lawful advancement of society. We work side by side with the Octarchy and the citizens of Yliakum. We are the militia of Yliakum. We protect Yliakum from crime, invasion, and war. We are The Brigade.

[I'm really looking for feedback and criticism from the community. I want to see this guild succeed and become a good guild to RP with. A guild that is actively setting up events for the community and trying to get better and promote RP. I know I might not be the best RPer but I'm looking to get better and to pass it on to other players. Please post, pm, or /tell your concerns and I will try to address them. Also contact me if you are interested in becoming apart of this project and a founding member. I will look into you. Thanks.

Other things I want to add or didn't mention here: IC hierarchy and chain of command. Ceremonies like graduation, role calls, and celebrations. Different equipment, clothing and insignia (RPed) for rank. Over the next few days I will be setting up a forum and will post that link here]  
« Last Edit: September 22, 2009, 04:20:53 am by Havuik »

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Re: [Guild] The Brigade*
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2009, 09:40:15 pm »
* kiou is kiou ingame and my guild is very similar to this one [we should meet]

one question do you rp stats and skills?
so can i only rp sword if i have trained sword in the mechanics?
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2009, 09:53:44 pm »
Hmm...that's a tough question for me. Not sure how to answer it exactly so I hope this answer will do:

I want to be able to let the player RP whatever they wish (as long as it's not breaking settings or godmodding) but I wouldn't really care if someone never trained at all but RPed their character as a simple swordsman (for example). As long as they RP it well and have fun I don't think anyone should say otherwise.

Although this does raise a problem. During an RP fight how would one tell who is the better fighter? In this case I really think it's down to the players in the fight. They could /roll to see if an attack succeeds, duel, or just let the RP develop and take turns winning and losing.

Obviously I've mentioned some jobs and skills that aren't in game (traditional medicine, potion making, range, etc.) and thus those will have to be RPed. I don't want levels and skills to restrict RP but rather RP to restrict levels and skills. I'll encourage my guildmates to have strengths and weakness that would be naturally found in a warrior. Although don't RP your character to be the best swordsman around if you have a 2 in swords and don't even RP training it. I think it really depends on the situation and what type of players you play with.

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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2009, 10:43:35 pm »

Looks like an interesting start....

I think Yliakum needs an ACTIVE  kick-your-butt-good-guy-guild to balance things out  ;)
A few things come to mind..

"Assist the Hydlaa guards appropriately. Creating a citizens watch for criminals inside the walls and report them to the guards."

- This thing about involving the guards might discourage "bad guys' from playing with you. ( its like bringing a henchman with a machine gun to a boxing match ).
- For dealing with criminals I think its better ( and more fun for everyone ) to just deal with them directly.
- Nobody wants to RP with a hydlaa guard who might pull out a Reinforced-Frosty-Quarterstaff-of-the-Godmodder  and freeze/teleport/banish/ban you.

"Organize a militia to deal with invasions from the Stone Labyrinths and other hostile intrusions"
"... and organize expeditions into the Stone Labyrinths for its plentiful resources."

- It might be a little tricky to RP things involving the stone labyrinths as they are not yet accessible.
- If you need invasions just say so .. there are plenty of bad guys that would be willing to invade a group that can RP well

Regarding the ranking system - as an RPing guild It might be worth it to take RP skills into consideration and not just combat skills.

 - If your guild gets a reputation for having members that can't RP reasonably well then you will have a hard time setting up events with other guilds.
 - I would say either screen new applicants for RP skills or better yet - require some level of RP competence before they can rank up and participate in guild to guild events.

To think about:

-  How might your guild attract more experienced players ?
  -- do you need help from experienced players with training new members, setting up events,  funding events, etc...

- Do you plan on starting off with any specific alliances or biases ?







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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2009, 11:15:10 pm »
Thank you for the feedback, this is what I'm looking for :thumbup:. I didn't even think about some of your points, and I'm glad you brought them up.

When I said that we would be assisting the guards I was trying to go for the impression that we wouldn't be against them and that we would be a lawful militia. I completely understand your concern. I didn't mean to say we will be running to the guards every time someone gets robbed. In fact I've even had a couple times were I faced "evildoers" inside the walls by myself :whistling:. But if someone starts picking a fight right in front of an NPC guard then I'm going to RP that the guard would deal with it and not draw my swords and fight him.

I thought the Stone Labyrinths part would fit into the guild goals nicely IC. OOC I know that we can't actually enter the labyrinth and it will be difficult to RP. May think about removing this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

As for the ranking system I was pretty sure I would include RP skills. May not have made this clear but a lot of the training exercises (especially for newer members) and missions will be heavily RPed and may not even include NPCs. For instance a trainee might have to fight an instructor. This would not be a duel, it would be a RP fight where they take turns making moves or countering them (or not). Or perhaps a group of cadets will have to RP setting up a camp, hunting some food down, and cooking it, as well as navigating the terrain (i want to put to use some this emptiness between cities). I hope that because of this we will be able to 'weed out', address, or drop anyone who doesn't have the RP competence before they graduate as a cadet. Also events with other guilds will only be available to full members (non-trainees) to make sure that our guild is represented well and we don't have any people who won't/can't RP correctly.

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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2009, 11:48:51 pm »
I faced "evildoers" inside the walls by myself :whistling:

And you lost.

Heh. It's a good thing though. That's probably (IMHO) one of the most important things about being a do-gooder. You need to have the willingness OOC to lose. Or else it becomes a fight with Kaerli and very, very boring. I'm not saying to lose every time, far from it, but it's easy to tell when RPing with someone whether or not the player is willing to lose.


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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2009, 03:07:22 am »
I back you 100% Havuik, Well done. -Smile-   :)

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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2009, 05:12:49 pm »
Just a quick update. This guild has been officially (by game mechanics anyways) created.I know this is just the beginning and there is still a lot of work ahead. I ask that everyone be patient as I won't be able to set up any events yet (most of the first couple 'events' will just be recruitment stands anyways). I'll be working on getting forums set up this weekend and then coming up with some more details about the guild. Also, I'll be looking for a better name so suggestions are welcome.

As always I will be looking for criticism, feedback, concerns, support, and ideas. (Note: For some reason I can't reply to my PMs via the forum. So just leave a name for your IG character that you play most and I will try to send you a /tell. Thanks)

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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2009, 06:21:59 pm »
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2009, 05:57:53 am »
(thanks for the reply weltall)

I'm going to post some more information on the guild gradually. Things are moving along slowly and I will save the big things for the weekend. This post is about guild points that I decided to add a bit of a twist to, I'm interested in your thoughts.

To rank up from cadet you will need to get 100pts as well as meet the other requirements posted in the first post. This is also true to apply for an Officer position. All other ranks (with the exception of Recruit) do not rank up to anything. However, when a soldier reaches 100gp they are eligible for a medal and a reward from the militia. This will usually be a pile of tria and a unique medal/badge that can be worn around the neck or placed on the uniform. I will give these badges and medals names as well as descriptions and they will be earned in order. So if this is a soldier's first time reaching 100gp they will earn the ABC badge. The second time The Medal of XYZ. Etc. It may be possible to earn an honorary title as well. This is just to add to the RP and show how much someone helps the guild through RP. As well as give something to boast about IC or start conversations and stories.

(On a note for badges and medals and titles. I may also give them out to people who took part in major events or earned a title through a nickname they were given. These rewards will be unique to that event and once it is done it probably can't be earned elsewhere. Although there will be plenty other badges!)

As for earning GP it will probably be various ways. Missions, assignments, and training exercises (all RP events) will be given GP if participated in and will usually have the amount that one will receive in the briefing. They will probably be anywhere from 5pts to 15pts. Expeditions, campaigns, and outings (RP events that take place in a specific area for a number of days) will be given larger amounts of GP and maybe a badge. Anywhere from 15pts to 25pts. Other ways of earning GP might be from guarding locations for citizens watch, finding out information about criminal activity, and representing the guild well through RP (points may also be subtracted for making the guild look bad IC. If you make the guild look bad OOC that is another matter I or an Officer will talk with you personally about). However points gained in this way will be fare less (5 or less pts) but may be more frequent and not require much planning or organizing.

Alternative Way: I've also had an alternate version of using GP. I'm not too sure of this way as it isn't all that supportive. But it would essentially use GP as guild credits. If a troop went to see the Quartermaster for a new sword. Then the Quartermaster would make/buy that weapon and put a GP price on it. The troop's points would then be subtracted that much. As Credits can only be raised up to 100pts (no item would be more than that) I may give the troop a chance to exchange their credits for X amount of tria and reset their GP to 0. Basically IC it would be referred to as Quartermaster Credits and would be earned all IC so there wouldn't be a problem there. May work, may not work out. May have to be changed, may be added to the other method above. Not sure if I'm going to end up doing it yet.

The intent is to recognize and encourage those who take an active role in guild RP and make the guild better (and look better). I'm not sure if this will work, but I think it's a idea that should be tried. Please, your thoughts and feedback are again welcome.
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2009, 06:35:56 am »
This sounds good. Very promising.

I like the idea of medals (there are various pendants and badges as quest rewards and quest items that you could use until mechanics are introduced to support this...even try to get them engraved by the GM/NPC engraver) and titles.

I`d suggest awarding GP for presence in game, general good RP, assisting fellow guild members (preferably in an IC manner) and, an important one IMO: the organizing and participation in guild events.
It sounds like teamwork will be a big thing for this guild, so Group hunts sound like a good idea, particularly for training.

I`d be rather selective in who you recruit if I were you. Put them through a decent test of RP before inviting.

One question I have is: will we see Brigade members running through cities with weapons drawn?

You might want to look into OSP sponsorship/assistance in some way in the future.

Finally, if you want to organize an event with the Outlaws, feel free to contact me.
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2009, 06:50:06 am »
havuik i have an idea, post 4 times and pm me
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2009, 04:50:41 pm »
[Looking to seeing this guild in full membership. And having met Havuik IC and OOC I know its in good hands.]
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2009, 04:54:21 pm »
Thank you Jarexia. I was planning on trying to go for a OSP sponsorship as well as organizing events with Outlaws. However, you will have to be patient with me as the guild does not have enough resources (Both IC and OOC) to plan for these in the near future. My priorities now is getting new recruits who already have a good knowledge of RP and setting up guild resources (like our Oath, name change, chain of command, background information, as well as lessons for the hopefully new recruits I will be finding)

I am screening all recruits myself right now. They will be asked a few questions IC and I will judge them OOC on how they respond in terms of playing their character in an appropriate way. After that there's a few OOC things I'll go over with them in /tells. I'll basically be telling them what is expected of them as a player and my OOC requirements and goals. If everything is excellent then I will invite them there. If I suspect that either the player or character doesn't fit into the guild then I will take a few days to gather information (IC or OOC, respectfully) and decide after that.

Members should not be running through Hydlaa with there weapons drawn. I address recruits both IC and OOC on this. Breaking this rule will receive an IC punishment and I will talk to them OOC to make sure they understand what they did wrong, but this really is an IC matter I believe, so it will be handled IC. Militiamen are not above the law nor should ever claim to be! (also note I may end up "banning" other things from the guild as well. Such as Dark magic or gambling. These aren't illegal activities but my character looks down upon them. Of course this doesn't stop your character from doing so, just don't let Havuik find out :).

Kiou, I've tried looking out for you IG but didn't see you online when I was. I'll get forum posts up soon enough, don't worry.

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2009, 03:11:10 am »
The Brigade has gone through some big steps the last couple days. First off is we have decided to keep the name of the guild to The Brigade. For better or worse that will remain the name in the foreseeable future. As of now we do not intend to change it anymore, however I do refer to the guild sometimes as Yliakum's militia and The Domes Defenders.

Another important resource I have set up are the guild forums. Found here http://thebrigade.myfreeforum.org/ I welcome anyone who wishes to interact with us register there. Please feel free to look around at what I have set up so far, but again I ask you to be patient as it is still a work in progress. I also ask that you hold off on posting for the time being.

Now I'm going to release some more information on things I have been working on. Two things; one directly related info, the other is a subgroup I hope for The Brigade to establish in the future.

First, I have added some minor things on how troops start and end conversations with each other. These are formal greetings to sound more official and pay each other IC respect (we are a military organization). It involves a /salute or a /bow command depending on the ranks and situation. It is detailed on the forums and I hope to add it to the IC hierarchy system I will establish. Other things I have been working on are uniforms (will begin working with a tailor IG soon) and nicknames. I also plan on coming up with a war cry, chant, and standing orders.

Secondly, I'd like to address an organization that The Brigade will be sponsoring in the near future. This will be known as 'Citizens Watch' and will contain both Brigade members and non-Brigade members. Its objective will be to provide security for business and events in the Hydlaa and Gugrontid area. If it is within these towns then we will provide our services free of charge. If the event or business is outside of these limits then we will negotiate with mangers/planners on a fair deal. Obviously we will only be providing security to lawful events and establishments. We will be training members to work with staffs and shields as to deal with a disruption in a nonlethal way. However, those methods will be second to commands and attempts to dissolve a situation before it becomes dangerous.

Currently applications for Citizens Watch are not being excepted. This is due to the lack of resources I can set aside for it at the moment. When Citizens Watch is set up you will find a thread for it in our forums. However, I cannot say exactly when we will organize it. Right now the service will be made available by members of The Brigade and earn them guild points.

Now I tried to make myself available IC around Hydlaa these last few days. I wanted to give people a chance to interact with me and see what kind of player I was. Really I feel like it was mixed comments, but not the best first couple days. However, I am optimistic about this coming week. I tried to stay in character and play with the people who had obvious insults like "you're a bunch of noobs", "my guilds better than yours" and the challenges to duels and guild wars with no IC reason. But in the coming days I think I may just ignore them and not even try to RP it out. So thanks to the constant IG interruption I ask that the best way of providing feedback to me is via posting here, PMing me on this forum (which I can now respond to) or registering on our own forums. Thank you for those who did constructively criticize and support me. I will be posting more in the next couple days and look forward to the next week.
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