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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2009, 01:52:49 am »
Nice, Weltall. Good job on that. It will be interesting on how that plays out.

At one time there was talk about having a limited character count "Physical Description" tab and then an unlimited background tab. Was this the method they went with? If the first is not limited, then people will just toss everything in there anyways.

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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2009, 06:38:18 am »
Well, Sarras, I wouldn't say I was a self-conscious women, but I am prepared to admit when I'm clueless  ::|

I thought you were showing your dislike of female characters physical descriptions which could be summed up as 'cleavage on legs'

Please, re-educate me if I'm wrong though!  :D

well, like Timmothy said, there are the god-characters.

there are also those female characters with painfully long descriptions all about their "see-through tops", "firm perky breasts," "tight round butt" and etc. paragraphs and paragraphs I can't be bothered to read. and I know their excuses are "just being creative" when really it's quite obvious what they want.  X-/

it's all right if they just give a short, sentence long description of how attractive their characters are.... because then I don't have to scroll through a bunch of pointless text. I'm not interested in your bewbies, I'm interested in whether you're capable of robbing me or something more important

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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2009, 06:52:59 am »
it's all right if they just give a short, sentence long description of how attractive their characters are....

I'm reminded of the characters from the "House of Lust". Their descriptions were solely, "Wearing just panties and a sexy bra only!!!"

Ah, they were fun.


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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2009, 07:28:00 am »
As an example of a decent description, I will post my own.
"This Kran's eyes are a deep green, contrasting with the sandstone red skin. A horned helmet covers the boulder-like head. The Kran's torso and legs are covered in plate, while the arms are uncovered. The arms are engraved with two crossed swords each. Kra is smiling, while looking wary of the surroundings."

I give specific details of features, armaments and markings.
The engravings or tattoos on the arms signify his membership to a guild, but I dont reveal that as that would be impossible to know unless the person previously knew two crossed swords was that guild's insignia.


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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2009, 05:04:52 pm »
there are also those female characters with painfully long descriptions all about their "see-through tops", "firm perky breasts," "tight round butt" and etc. paragraphs and paragraphs I can't be bothered to read. and I know their excuses are "just being creative" when really it's quite obvious what they want.  X-/

it's all right if they just give a short, sentence long description of how attractive their characters are.... because then I don't have to scroll through a bunch of pointless text. I'm not interested in your bewbies, I'm interested in whether you're capable of robbing me or something more important

Well consider me re-educated!  :)

These wanton women trick me into reading paragraphs about their physique so that my character is 'staring' at their well rounded bodies. You're right! They may well be skanks.  :innocent:


My personal gripe is the descriptions which include their mothers profession, religion, childhood events and so on.  I'm fairly sure my character couldn't tell any of this from meeting them in the tavern for two minutes.

Hmmm.......Maybe they get T-shirts made up : "My parents were eaten by ulbernauts and all I got was this lousy T-shirt"  ;D
« Last Edit: September 21, 2009, 05:54:59 pm by angstrom »
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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2009, 07:45:32 pm »
Nice, Weltall. Good job on that. It will be interesting on how that plays out.

At one time there was talk about having a limited character count "Physical Description" tab and then an unlimited background tab. Was this the method they went with? If the first is not limited, then people will just toss everything in there anyways.
a possibility could be enforcing it but don't consider this as a commitment or w/e just an idea thrown there. in any case i can't ask a computer to understand that one is a physical description and one is a background :)

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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2009, 08:33:33 pm »
I meant limited as in the number of characters they can put in. Like a limit of 1000 characters or some such. Even if they do put in OOC and background stuff, then it will not be a ton of reading.

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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2009, 12:11:14 pm »
I’m afraid Lhaa and others clearly did miss my point. I was questioning why people thought that their physical descriptions alone made for good role play. In truth, I should know better on these forums than to use examples to demonstrate how even such descriptions can be weak I did, as people tend to react subjectively on each item rather than see the more general issue… making the items themselves the focus of discussion.

I will try to put the point more subtly. There are numerous versions of enacting role plays and numerous ways to perform them, and I’m sure many here have participated in other variations than just PS. All depend on good character definition at the start, but how much other people know about that character depends on how you wish to develop the roleplay. This can vary between 2 extremes of scene setting, open and closed, though most fall somewhere in between.

In the open environment everyone will know something about each other. An example would be a close knit community where you have grown up and hence know something about most people, from your peers to your teachers, traders etc. In the closed you will know nothing, such as for a complete stranger entering a large sprawling city on their first day.

The medieval world would have tended toward the more open environment as most people stayed within their communities, knowing much of neighbouring communities, regular visitors etc. Even strangers would have been quickly assimilated, if friendly enough, and soon become part of the gossip and rumour chain. If I took Lhaa’s example of the bar brawl the knowledge and details of such an occurrence would spread very quickly. I know that in my own environment I find out about any such disturbance very quickly the next day from neighbours or people at the shops, long before I see someone covered with bruises.

By restricting descriptions to only what you see pushes this game toward the more closed scene of the stranger lost in the cold sprawling city. This is fine for those already established as they can go about their role plays with their existing acquaintances occasionally inviting others they feel safe about. Even introducing new characters they will target those they already know. What about the newcomer? How many of you in RL would walk up to a stranger in a dark corner of a bar clearly carrying weapons and who is covered in bruises, scars and strange adornments or markings? Or are you more likely to walk up to someone and say “ Don’t I recognise you from XXX?” (only to be rudely told that information is OOC!). I’ll let you decide which is the more realistic.

The choice to adopt the more closed approach of no character background is precisely that, a choice, it is not because it is the only or better way of role play. Nor does the more open scenario make the role play any less imaginative though it can allow it to develop more quickly (e.g. as you are not slowed down by the detective work) and be more inviting to others (by increasing the opportunity for conversation). There is no reason that both approaches cannot be used with those preferring to be open using some background (but not too verbose), while those wishing to be more secretive having none. Good role players are able to discern what information they should and should not know without ignoring it completely if there is relevance (and yes, people will be rude and say read my description, just as others can be rude when telling you you’re OOC).

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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2009, 12:48:48 pm »
@ Ceraline:

I was surprised to have put specific, settings related details into a description of one of my chars, and hardly ever been contacted by anyone else about them. I even started acting strange with him to make people curious, lead them to look at my description, and hardly got any reaction... (e.g. noone ever told my char not to run around so publicly with that kind of tattoo; at least a few I asked in tells recognised it OOC).

And now I read here that people discuss so much about rather unimportant details (like body part sizes) regarding the (mental) characters of the characters (avatars).

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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2009, 07:10:47 pm »
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Are you saying having boobs the size of exercise balls is unimportant?


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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2009, 08:54:33 am »
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Are you saying having boobs the size of exercise balls is unimportant?

I'd just like to say that, no matter their importance, I think it would be very painful.  X-/


But uh, as for descriptions.. I usually stick purely to what ones senses would tell you. As in sight, sound... etc.
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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2009, 09:34:20 am »
@ Timmeh:

You as "teh macho" will surely know why women can't be both attractive and intelligent... but well, a match to your level of maturity will exist. ;)

Remember that PlaneShift, the forum and the IRC channels, are publicly accessible - even to minors. It may be advisable to talk about physical traits in a not as obvious and obscene style as you may prefer...

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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2009, 05:06:43 pm »
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Are you saying having boobs the size of exercise balls is unimportant?

Kran "women" (as they are played at times) dont have breasts, they have steel pecs from benching a house  :thumbdown:. Since you enjoy this kind of thing, head over to gurgontid Timmy.

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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2009, 02:05:12 am »
Oh yay, another thread telling people how they must play PlaneShift.

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Re: The Correct Description
« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2009, 06:49:24 am »
Oh yay, another thread telling people how they must play PlaneShift.

This is a guideline, based off the rules of Planeshift on descriptions. Its posted here for other players to see. Get over yourself  :'(. Noyone is handing down self-imposed truths they are simply the rules.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2009, 07:09:20 am by bloodedIrishman »