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Illysia

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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #135 on: November 09, 2009, 06:10:29 pm »
If there is really a need for a wipe in order to further the development of the game then someone from the development team should come on the forum, announce the need for the wipe, acknowledge that lots of people will be upset and hopefully offer some kind of accommodation to people who have been playing a while ( something like for each month you have been playing you get X amount of levels you can use towards leveling either stats or skills).

Minus the promise of compensation, I think Xillix has done this but I don't know if much can be done about the compensation thing. Not to mention there is going to be whining about unfairness and some people getting more than others no matter what. My biggest problem with this is the adjustment period after the wipe, but I imagine we will find a way to get by. I just hope we don't loose too many people as it is rather hard to start up RPs as it is.

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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #136 on: November 09, 2009, 06:17:13 pm »
I think some are forgetting how much this will SERVE rp. Getting long time plers whose idea of rp is to bully everyone verbally until a fight ensues will be gone to ez...

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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #137 on: November 09, 2009, 06:33:30 pm »
Illysia - No Xlllx didn't even come close to doing what I suggested until there had already been 9 pages of post. Go back and look at the first post by Xlllx all it said was the thread title and have fun. Since then I've seen a lot of divisive posts going back and forth. The very first post in this thread should have spelled out everything I mentioned. A post like I suggested might have saved a lot of divisive posting between members of the community.

Xlllx - Sorry I don't see how further dividing the small community we already have on line even more is going to serve RP. I know some people who have a rep as being OOC jerks who at other times have been part of very good RP's. RP isn't served if a character shouts " Hello" and all they get back is echos or the sound of crickets.

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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #138 on: November 09, 2009, 07:09:55 pm »
The basic feeling I am getting from this is that besides the code fixes and DB issues that will be addressed with a wipe, the new client and server will have so many changes to it that it will be almost like a completely new game. You should start out with a baseline character for that.

The basic facts are this. There are maybe 1000 active players in the game per week. Most of them will leave in less than three months. I am going to guess there are less than 100 steady players who remain for more than a year, and even fewer that last past that.

A wipe now might not be the healthiest thing for the current players, but in six months most of those would have quit anyways. In the long run, it is healthy for the game itself.

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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #139 on: November 09, 2009, 07:26:11 pm »
My biggest regret about a wipe will be the loss of my status singular name. Bilbous will be no more and Bil Bous or Bilb Ous or something completely different will be in place.
Personally I haven't played in quite a while because since the levels have gone all the way up to 200 in some cases it has been just too arduous to try to advance. I play my character but it is advancement that really satisfies.

Starting from scratch isn't too bad, especially if the levelling system has been tweaked. As it is now it does not take long to be able to fight the trepors. For the most part once you are wearing leather and have even a little skill with it they can't hurt you. They sure pay off pretty good in PPs. Some of the rogues and bandits are similarly useful. Pretty much the only time you have to fight rats or tefusang is when you need to harvest bits for a quest.

Given that military training is mandatory for all citizens of Yliakum it is not too onerous to do a little bit here and there.


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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #140 on: November 09, 2009, 07:37:29 pm »
Just do it. And do it nao.

Like right now.


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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #141 on: November 09, 2009, 07:46:35 pm »
If the majority of the developers are behind the reset, then reset. Lets get it over with and see how the chips fall. Someone mentioned "poor customer service" or something. There are no customers here, only testers. If the team wants the reset to further the development of the game, then it should proceed and we should treat it like we are getting a new game.

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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #142 on: November 09, 2009, 07:56:26 pm »
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the reason you're called names is because you let selfish emotions take control of your decisions.

Yeah Sarras whatever you said...  Live long and prosper ::)

@Xillix:  When is this going to happen?  I don't want to be whining, selfish or emotional, but I want to know when we can start again fresh.  Before an imminent wipe out, I rather wait until it happens.

@Verden: We are users no testers, we belong to a community, not to a corporation.

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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #143 on: November 09, 2009, 08:07:44 pm »
We are users no testers

Planeshift is pre-alpha. You're a tester. Get over it.


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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #144 on: November 09, 2009, 08:14:17 pm »
-We've redone the entire quest system
-We've made Platinum harder to get
-We're working on the spell system
-We're about to rework character creation from scratch
-There are a bunch of new traits older characters missed the chance to elect
-Over 900 bugs fixed since last release
-Devs are pretty nearly universally on the side of a wipe
If the rules to leveling haven't changed, then I say no because we will just be playing the same game over again.  The only thing that should definitely be reset are the quests that we've completed (including tutorial) because we should all do them over anyways.

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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #145 on: November 09, 2009, 08:20:42 pm »
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Planeshift is pre-alpha. You're a tester.
That's not my opinion Timmothy.  Get over it.

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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #146 on: November 09, 2009, 08:26:30 pm »
I think some are forgetting how much this will SERVE rp. Getting long time plers whose idea of rp is to bully everyone verbally until a fight ensues will be gone to ez...

Sorry Xil, but all the PLers who are going to migrate have probably already done it. Those kinds of PLers will simply bide their time till they are fully trained again and then it will be business as usual. Let's face it, most people prefer to play on Laanx. However, if there is a complete wipe then so be it but I'd like it to be very clear on whether it is a completely fresh start. If this is the case, I will make new characters that will likely bear some resemblance to my original characters, and I will start down a new path. But I need to know that this is what we are for sure doing. It's the teeter tottering between the past and future that makes things more strained.


Oh, can I point out to people how many have voted in this poll? *points points points* This many people should also contribute in the other polls as well. Sorry, just a little aside.  :offtopic:
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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #147 on: November 09, 2009, 08:27:24 pm »
the opinion: we will have to take 30 minutes to get to the bronze doors is invalid as everyone can see from the code the algorithm was redone entirely. making the restoring of stamina be really fast near depletion and slowing down when almost full, plus also the depletion of it was reduced quite dastrically to what was a bug, which was fixed.

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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #148 on: November 09, 2009, 08:31:58 pm »
We are users no testers

Planeshift is pre-alpha. You're a tester. Get over it.

Gee I can't for the life of me think of a reason why the player base is so small and seems to be getting smaller. The testers/players/customers are helping the Dev team discover and work out the bugs. Drive all the players/testers/customers away with the above attitude and the dev team will have to do all their own testing which will slow things down even more I'd imagine.  Players/tester/customers should respect the dev team for all they do for the game but like wise there needs to be respect coming back from the dev team to the players/testers/customers

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Re: Wipe y/n?
« Reply #149 on: November 09, 2009, 08:42:17 pm »
customers

There are no customers. No one's paying anyone.


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