Why I don't roleplay more

[bloodedIrishman]

I always find RP... am I weird?

In my case, one of my character's does not need to search much, just speaking with others can really grind some gears or melt some hearts. 

[Satha]

I tried joining a guild thingy to help things along, but I don't know if they are active anymore... will have to look into it more, I guess.

I think once I actually do start roleplay with some people, it will be easier to roleplay with them the next time. And then I'll meet people that they know, and roleplay with them.. then get easier at it the next time we meet... until I get so used to roleplay that it doesn't matter anymore.


I just need to start. 

[Sen]

I actually joined people who stood roleplaying somewhere (and where rather welcoming to new people) and was mostly only listening; maybe throwing a sentence in between when it looked right, or just described what Im actually doing while listening. In time it got more and more...


Sen

[Lolitra, Celorrim Purrty Twins]

anyone is free to join any of my RP's....   just look out for either Lolitra, Ixala [known only as Mimmi] or Elexis in game...

[Sen]

Yes, I think you were in that group I remember as the first one that I approached in order to learn roleplay 

Sen

[Elady]

Anyone is welcome to come out to the Stonehead Tavern if you are looking for some RP either as an experienced RP'er or someone trying to learn. One of the reasons we have the Stonehead.

[Aiwendil]

There doesn't happen anything in PS at the moment that's worth to be called RP. Sure, there are a few sparks of it, but that's all.
Roleplaying nowadays obviously means:

• Movin'n'Rockin'
• Turning PS in a cheap comedy show by playing a Kikiri and having players chase you with drawn weapons on the plaza. And a talking fish is always good for some RP too.
• Creating a lot of threads with logs about everytime your characters sneezes...That's already post-worthy RP. But I guess it's not about the RP and more about seeing ones name in the forums.
• Turning even a casual talk into a RP that ends with a fight in Kada El's or with someone dying. But sure, killing RPs are the only RPs worth doing.
• Just creating an alt and getting the wanted information with the alt if the main char can't get them him/herself...oh...and of course the main char will know this all too then.
• Having a guild party in Kada El's without saying a single word in main for some hours.
• Organizing RPs in tells. Something like "XXXX tells you: Want to do some RP with me" - " You tell XXXX: Sure, let me create an alt you can kill. Or do you maybe want to offer me an alt of you to torture?". I wish you all fun with the new chat channels. There you can have the "Looking for RP" chat channel and get rid of the need to do any casual RP...you can only ask where to go for some serious RP..meaning where you can find your next victim. No need to bother with looking ICly for victims..and it's far better this way anyway. If someone offers to be a victim I don't need to be afraid that my main char gets in serious troubles.
• Coming by, sitting down at the same table as some other players without asking or even greeting and then force everyone around to listen to your story.
• Having a tavern supported by the money of a vigesimi who pays for everything. And then tell others that it pays off far more to give drinks away for free...Sure the economy is PS is not working at all..so we all RP a bugged economy now. Oh wait, yes...we also play wipes, server downtimes and bugs now. Of course you get more money at the moment by giving miners drinks for free...I guess I'm just the only person who sees no sense in RPing a faulty economy. I guess it's better to teach new players for to do it properly and show them how to RP bugs and send them to the next mining fair. In the end that the most important skill any PS player needs.

Sorry, I can't and won't keep up with these standards for good RP.

[Raekh]

My hopes were you are merely exaggerating, Aiw, but for some reason I dont think so=x.

I recently read on the forums someone commenting "people gone are posting on the forums" - if this would have been aimed at me: lately I now and then had my attempts to RP, but what Aiw described quite fits what I experienced at last.

Turning even a casual talk into a RP

these standards for good RP

For me thats one of the major reasons why I dont RP anymore right now. And I dare to remark, that recruiting GMs by all means, quantity over quality, is the wrong way, but only supports this type of standard.

I am optimistical that with the new client to come, its new features and its obviously improved handling, people interested in RP, more than mass-gaming, will be attracted and make this game a more niche, special and outstanding one, like it once was.

[Elady]

Ah folks I'd like to point out that Planeshift is a game and the reason most people play a game is to have fun. The nice part about Planeshift is that it is flexible enough to allow people who have vastly different idea of fun to play. Some people find fun in leveling so they can do that. Some people find fun in Serious RP and those people can also have fun in the game. I think the vast majority of other people have fun some place in the middle.

Personally I don't see much point in someone getting upset about how people set up their RP. I'd thing if you are a fan of RP you would want to encourage people to RP more often. If it encourages people to RP more by setting up some things in tells Hey I see no harm in that. Guess I am a lot more of the " To each their own" type of person than some of the others commenting on this thread are.

Oh and by the way even in today's economy you have places of business that will sell ( or even give away) a produce or service for for well below cost. It is called a loss leader. The idea is that you draw people in to buy the under priced good or service and hope you can make up for the losses by selling other items or services for a higher price. For the Stonehead the food and drinks ( and to date al of the food has been donated by players and not the  Vigesimi ) are the loss leaders and in return we get donations of food and tiras and the workers often get tip. Seems like that is a properly working economic model to me.

[Rigwyn]

I suspect that a number of aiwendil's comments could have been directed at me. I'm guilty of a few of these crimes - including setting up rp events via ooc tells and putting my main character in jeopardy. I'm not an olbie by any means - just another noob trying to figure out how things work. If my inexperience in rp and initiating events has caused anyone grief then sorry.

As for using less then perfect means for role playing and iniating events I say its better to make an earnest attemp making some mistakes in the process than to do nothing at all.

Yes, I'm guilty of a good number of these things but ya know what ?
I'm having a hell of a lot of fun and
So are many of the other players who rp with me.

[bloodedIrishman]

•Movin'n'Rockin

The motto is amusing, but the people spewing it make up a very small amount of the community.

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Turning PS in a cheap comedy show by playing a Kikiri and having players chase you with drawn weapons on the plaza. And a talking fish is always good for some RP too.

I see nothing wrong with the roleplay's, it might seem childish to some who are used to far more serious roleplays; but they were intended to be lighthearted and fun and came out that way.

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Creating a lot of threads with logs about everytime your characters sneezes...That's already post-worthy RP. But I guess it's not about the RP and more about seeing ones name in the forums

The in game roleplay event posts have always varied, always. From significant in-depth storylines involving many characters and twists to something trivial; it's a player's showing of what they have done in game with others (ussualy) and how proud they are.

I'm exhausted right now, so I wont go through the rest of the bulletpoints. I'll end on two notes.

Firstly, the standards of roleplay have not degraded, it's your perspective and state of mind that has changed. Or it may have changed it's face, so it takes some accustoming to. For instance here is the example of star wars viewers. When my father was younger he saw star wars and it absolutely dazzled him, he was mesmerized by it. When it was remade years later and sequels made, he believed them not to be as good as the originals. That's a common criticism by the original audience of star wars. But no, it did not degrade or become inferior, it just changed face to the older perspective of the original audience.

Secondly, I'm well aware I'm known as some critic, it does not mean I think all that was once good or should be has gone to hell. I'm just...sassy.


As a solution, I quote my good friend Marathal. "Flex and flow: be flexible and go with the flow. Life is too short; get over it."

[Sarras Volcae]

• Creating a lot of threads with logs about everytime your characters sneezes...That's already post-worthy RP. But I guess it's not about the RP and more about seeing ones name in the forums.

have to agree, there's a lot of pointless logs spamming up the in-game rp forum right now. i've actually stopped reading roleplays because of this. only logs i bother to read are jacula's and rigwyn's. some players think convos are important... they're not. they're boring as hell and a waste to read. just get to the point and show us what happened. no one watches a movie or reads a book simply for dialogue.

[Jarexia]

One factor for me is time. I`m busy in real life and don`t get more than an hour or two on PS each day. During those few hours I want to have fun. And I do that by organizing adventures. RPing everyday life can be fun and I like it once in a while, but my time is limited so I like to plan a bit of drama.

After my experiences as an Outlaw I`ve found that it isn`t easy finding victims for crime RPs. You`ll either be ignored or challenged before you`ve managed to say more than a couple of sentences (and I`m not much for duels). However, if I know a few players who`re usually up for being the victim (and sure, maybe next time I`ll let them win one over on me: no one wants to always be the loser) and are often on at the same time as me (and I`m usually on during the low-population times mind you) then why not shoot them a Tell? That or I waste what little time I do have in game being ignored by those who aren`t up for it.
Along the way we usually end up attracting some more players, be they new or otherwise.

I used to do a lot of tabletop RPGs and one thing I enjoyed (and it made things more fun for the players) was customizing the adventures for the player`s characters. Likewise in PS if I know what characters are likely to be available, I can tool my plot to their strengths and weaknesses.

A quick comment on the use of alts...
I have no issues with using alts for minor roles in RPs. If it advances the story...if you really need someone for a small and temporary role but there isn`t anyone suitable available...etc. So long as you keep in mind, as Aiwendil said, that the alt character is not the main character and what one knows the other will not.

I know the Red Crystal Den has (and possibly always will be) a source of stress for Aiwendil and Lhaa. I can only hope it also provides them some measure of fun and enjoyment...and a forum for them to teach others their way of RPing.

I`m not saying anyone`s way of RPing is right. Each to their own. I think that so long as you`re not causing too much stress for other players, then live and let live. If you feel that there aren`t enough people RPing the way you do, then instead of retreating/withdrawing, why not get out there and try to mould some other players to your way of doing things?
For what it`s worth, that`s my opinion on the matter.

[Bamko]

Breifly, IMO, The best way to RP is to get to the point where  your ingame toon/avatar/person makes ingame freinds, without even asking for, or knowing, any RL information about their "owner". 

Many RPs will be monologing, acting as actor, director and writer.  I have seen quite a few go to IRC to explore their RP, and ends up being several, if not all, talking without listening to the others.  Kind of funny, in a sad way.

Whether you are letting a kikiri chase you, or playing hide and seek in the Laanx Dungeon (good times) or just talking with your Yliakum freinds, as your avatar, not as you, I think it makes better RP.  Note, I do not believe every RP needs to be epic.  In fact, how many times can you save the realm? 

Case in point, how many times has someone taken the time to help lolitria (sp?) with her clan symbol?  Nice epic quest, but can not be played ingame RP, because just about everyone has done it.  And if you rant about how she must have enough clan symbols to build a house, and all of a sudden people think you are NOT RPing it "right"

I find, the more they try to regulate RP, and the more epic people expect it to be, the harder it is to do it.  When I was at the height of my RP, I would log in, chat with Bamko's freinds, and make swords and mine ore... and have a good time.  Then I was told I do not "really" rp...

Really?  Let me ask you this... how do you RP your real life, IRL?  If you behaved the way you are expected to here, you would be carted off to a padded room.  But ingame, unless you are a brain damged Emo sociopath, you just are not trying hard enough?  Yeah... No thanks.

(note, If you enjoy that kind of RP, good for you.  Or if you are willing to keep being the director of epic RPs, even better.  But remember, Good RP CAN be just being a normal citizen.

[Akkaido Kivikar]

I must say I agree with Elady pretty much.

And Aiwendil, learn to ignore the noobs and idiots who don't take Laanx seriously... if what XilliX hints is right, they will soon be gone under stricter new rules on Laanx. As it is, I've noticed most of the testers on EZ for the 0.5.00 release are in fact known as good RPers on Laanx, I've seen Mordaan, Elady, Thim, and many others having a look at what there is coming up. Some of that may be because there's nothing to attract them to Laanx at the moment, some of it otherwise.

RP is still strong on Laanx however, my entire guild still RPs as best it can. We're not -perfect- but I do believe the majority of Kore Irka Clan is up to standard. We have a few bad eggs pop up from time to time as all guilds do, but we are working on that.

Rather than taking every thread about RP as a chance to complain and debate the same points over and over, let's actually make some threads about MAKING new RPs, or RP types that anyone can join, or RP types we're interested in finding or joining....

Solve the problem, don't just say the same two Tria in every thread