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Re: Why I don't roleplay more
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2009, 12:42:05 pm »
You are all responsible for you own RP experiences.  Please stop blaming others for not following your standards of RP.
Some people like epic RP, some like casual every day RP, some like both and some likes the quiet non talkative RP (PL).
There are so many ways of RP'ing, so many ideas of what is fun and what is not. Find your way of fun and promote it, but do not criticise others if they do not agree with you.

One thing i am tired of hearing is of how the good old days were so much better than today. Stop whining and do something about it! Every day there are lots and lots of new players. Most of them quit after a few hours (or even minutes) never to return, some of them stay. And i must say that the most important factor of how they understand RP, is how they are met by existing players. If they are greeted with RP (and some OOC help in the beginning) they will usually end up as RP'ers. But if they are met with someone only talking in brackets, fighting mobs and digging, they will end up as that. Stop whining and start teaching! Bring new people in to your RPs and show them what you think is good RP. Respect and tolerance is what we all need for good RP to flourish.

I am very happy that there are quite a few that have understood this. It is always a pleasure to watch a new player (freshly renamed by a GM in the tutorial) being taken care of by an "old" player and taught how to RP and how to advance your character. To see them grow in RP confidence and slowly learns how the settings work. It is equally sad seeing others being ignored because they are just "noobs".. They usally end up doing massive OOC in main, just to get some attention. And by that, the one you ignored before becomes very hard to ignore now (and this usually means a lot of work for GMs cleaning up the mess, explaining the rules again and again). Of course there are the occasional Troll, that comes just for the Trolling, but that is a different story.

I vote yes to casual everyday RP. I vote yes to large and epic RPs streching over months of time. I vote yes to a mix of both. I vote yes to serious RP. I vote yes to humoristic RP. As long as it follows the settings it is allowed.

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For me thats one of the major reasons why I dont RP anymore right now. And I dare to remark, that recruiting GMs by all means, quantity over quality, is the wrong way, but only supports this type of standard.
Do you have any idea at all of how new GMs are chosen/recruited and the process of evaluation?

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Re: Why I don't roleplay more
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2009, 06:27:27 pm »
I think not....  As for RP.. well.. if you don't RP because you don't like what others enjoy - why aren't you starting the RP in a way you do enjoy it. 

RP is fun no matter what, for me - at least I try to make it that way - and I love to be inclusive... so...

Stop whining.. and start RPing... you might be surprised...
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Re: Why I don't roleplay more
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2009, 07:58:01 pm »

I suspect that a number of aiwendil's comments could have been directed at me. [...]


Me too, and I don't think I've even committed any of those crimes. Ironically, meeting ingame a character whose name has signed so many reprimands in this forum ends up as the most obnoxious OOC interference in my rp (whatever it's worth) experience. Ain't it funny?


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Re: Why I don't roleplay more
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2009, 09:19:02 pm »
Pretty funny but don't worry, nobody will notice the difference. ;)

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Do you have any idea at all of how new GMs are chosen/recruited and the process of evaluation?

It's enough knowing who some of the GMs are to tell, too bad they can only keep it quiet for so long.

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if what XilliX hints is right, they will soon be gone under stricter new rules on Laanx.

Correct me if I'm wrong, that was under the premise of a wipe and that's not the case. I long for those RP *cough* rules eagerly, though.
First they have to be crafted, then I will see what do I think of them in due time.
But for now... you just keep waiting. o/
Things like these quickly get old and forgotten.

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You are all responsible for you own RP experiences.

Not true, try to RP in Unreal Tournament and see if anybody follows in a way that suits you. This is what happens in Laanx many times, the so called RP server. ;)
So no, you aren't responsible for all your RP experiences, unless you're logging alts to RP to yourself.
Or maybe it's the twisted concept of RP I have, I always thought you need other people to interact with!
Gosh gosh, I've been so misled all this time. ;)

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Stop whining.. and start RPing...
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Please stop blaming others for not following your standards of RP.
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Rather than taking every thread about RP as a chance to complain and debate the same points over and over,

These are really amusing.
Looks like people forgets pretty quickly here (as quick as two weeks time), or maybe some didn't realize who are they telling this to.

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Find your way of fun and promote it

This doesn't seem to work very well nowadays. I have to hope you aren't implying all the events the RCO has put up mean nothing in that regard. But apparently people will only facelift to enter the Den and then forget about it as soon as they come out... reminds me of what most do in GM events. ;)
After 3 years of learning then teaching new players it's pretty discouraging that the first to do /guildinvite wins and those new players end up in environments that will just make the teaching much harder if not impossible. But it's funny that you say this over and over to people who was doing this when 95% of the current PS playerbase was still trying to figure how to exit the DR, or how to install the game.
Sure, I could be more patient but I guess everybody has their own limits... blame me, I'm human. ;)
And some would think 3 years are already far too long to stand failure after failure, the more considering it looks like everything around me doesn't really get better but all the opposite (blah blah blah the good old times old rant yes kthxbye). Meanwhile the standards everybody talks about here have lowered so far that I forget what they were at some point, let alone new players... they will never get to know since nobody is left that will show them. Not even me. ;)
It's obvious new players need to learn and progress (I can't count the mistakes I made myself), the issue is into which direction do they progress. What they see and mime as a model generally isn't really what I'd call good roleplay, and I doubt even most of the settings team would, if they knew at all...

So to reply to the main thread's question... I don't RP play more because I don't stand your beloved new standard anymore.

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some like the quiet non talkative RP (PL).

Please..... XD

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Re: Why I don't roleplay more
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2009, 09:27:43 pm »
There doesn't happen anything in PS at the moment that's worth to be called RP. Sure, there are a few sparks of it, but that's all.
Roleplaying nowadays obviously means:
  • Having a tavern supported by the money of a vigesimi who pays for everything. And then tell others that it pays off far more to give drinks away for free...Sure the economy is PS is not working at all..so we all RP a bugged economy now. Oh wait, yes...we also play wipes, server downtimes and bugs now. Of course you get more money at the moment by giving miners drinks for free...I guess I'm just the only person who sees no sense in RPing a faulty economy. I guess it's better to teach new players for to do it properly and show them how to RP bugs and send them to the next mining fair. In the end that the most important skill any PS player needs.

Sorry, I can't and won't keep up with these standards for good RP.


Hey...  :'(

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Re: Why I don't roleplay more
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2009, 10:23:37 pm »


   Jessh, you are a miserable lot, cheer up! It is near christmas afterall  ;)

  Quite frankly RP is what you make it to be, if you find that some players RP in a way that you do not like or think is right, then either tolerate it or simply don't RP with them. Though if I am truthful, some of what people say is true, Tavern RP usually leading to fights ( with guards outside, two of them!)  is quite stupid and is  sadly very predictable. Perhaps a bit of a  drunken punch up every once in a while, but  swinging swords  every weekend is embarrassing to say the least.

 For me, RP is either quiet or very predictable  at present, I find my self quite bored of it all. I loved it I really did, I just think I'm being a moody oldbie, simply because the group of players I RP with have gone, most of them. I really do encourage them to come back if they are reading this! None the less I shall be active, or at least try to be, maybe I'm not being enthusiastic enough ;)

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Re: Why I don't roleplay more
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2009, 10:32:24 pm »
Pretty funny but don't worry, nobody will notice the difference. ;)

Do you mean you don't notice it?  ;)


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Re: Why I don't roleplay more
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2009, 10:33:50 pm »
Yep. Luckily, I assume.

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Re: Why I don't roleplay more
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2009, 10:48:32 pm »
We do have more gms, and they are awesome and caring volunteers who are working for you for nothing, have some gratitude.

Take responsibility: REPORT ABUSE, REPORT THOSE UNWILLING TO LEARN RP, REPORT DISRUPTIVE or ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR.

Ok folks, I am going to give you a new reason to RP: Because you can't complain about it here anymore.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2009, 10:50:12 pm by Xillix Queen of Fools »