Just got back from hospital
Glad to hear this Lolitra.
Obviously it failed epically.
The RCO failed simply because nobody cared. Well, they did, at least enough to say they do, then mostly do nothing about it. Very few people were up to help us and to be honest, we shouldn't be surprised about that. It's much easier to sit and wait for others to give you the fun than providing it yourself, even if it's not so fun for you then. In the end it was our mistake to believe something as big could be done in PS. If simple PL guilds fail all the time (let alone RP ones...), something like the RCO with its structure and needs was meant to fail from the start.
Yes, I know...it was started far too late and it should have been clear from the start that it will fail. I'm just can't fight the optimist in me sometimes. So let's put it in the same category of stupid things I tried as the joining the GM team...okay?
(and the quality varying wildly from good RP to epic tavern fights where everyone has inexplicably glowing body parts and lorebreaking spells and abilities - when I've been on it's been so deloate, RP-wise, that I even miss those. Ugh.)
Not so sure about that...having to carry Lhaa around the whole time because her second leg got broken also would have been hard.
Lhaa, if you keep it up. I'm going to give you a sign that says "I'm n ur thredz, stealin ur happyz." or one that say "I haz a grumpy." 
you too Aiwendil.
Awww, can I still have that sign even now after stopping playing PS? I like that...
goes and changes his signatureThe community is the lifeblood of the game - the mechanics are merely the body. Ones the blood drains out the body is dead.
With the community dead it might as well be a solo rpg.
You want rp to be alive? You need a lot of people who give a crap - not just one or two rp-saviors.
You want rp back ?
Do what it takes to attract and retain solid players.
If need be, get rid of the sucky players - kick them off for not role playing, tell them they must change, or take away the game mechanics. ( Take down the npc's for good )
That's harsh, I know.
Its worth considering though.
The resulting question is, how important is it to have a role playing community?
As it stands there are a fist full of players left scattered accors multiple timezones on a very large map.
the coals need to be lumped together somehow before the fire goes out.
Agreeing to almost everything here...and it might even be a good time for that seeing that I was flamed down in the past for saying something similar in even more nice words. Seems with the current lack of RP and players this is more likely to be accepted. Just far too late.
I love these topics because they always come about at regular intervals.
I know.Finally, Aiwendil, I'm just amazed at your patience explaining what we already said so many times and never managed to get through. Too bad I can't feel like spending so much time in it. At least in this side it feels like it's already too late. Whether it is too late for me or the whole community is something I wouldn't dare answer to. But my posts will have to do with shorter, pungent words most of the time. o/
And if the people who run the game won't listen to your suggestions at all, don't play anymore. It won't change. If they do, good for you, get your ideas out there and your opinion heard. Talk to Talad, see what he says. If he doesn't listen or straight-up says no, you know that this game probably isn't for you.
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I have not been playing because I don't have an interest in logging in. Loading is too much for me, I get tired looking at that screen. RP sucks, it is blatantly terrible. The bugs and lag and crashing I can handle, as long as the content of the game is good. It's not. So it adds onto the pile of dung that is what I see in the game right now. You don't like what I'm saying? Too bad. Because a hell of alot of people feel this exact same way.
All I'm saying is that RP isn't dead, we all just need to try something new.
I lost all my patience by now Lhaa. Not going to try to make any more suggestions, run any more events in game or even login. For me it's for sure far too late...not going to take any of this crap any longer. So I take Dracaeon's suggestion and do something new...playing another game that actually is fun as it is meant to be and not annoying almost all of the time. To all remaining I wish that their over and over repeated mantra "There is nothing wrong with PS" will help them to actually believe it themselves sometime. On a side note...thx for the post Kull, I have to admit that it actually felt good to read it.
@Lhaa: You know very little of my interactions with XilliX, or Talad for that matter. It's rather unwise to suggest I am ignorant in the matters concerning politics in PlaneShift development. Whether or not Talad benefits personally from my contribution is not the reason I contribute as a prospect, I contribute for the community.
@Aiwendil: I did not specifically claim to be doing anything to help RP, in my last post... I meant the game community as a whole. The only thing I can do to help RP in PlaneShift, in my honest opinion is to spend more time ingame RPing. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
The question is for what community...Not much of a community left I would say. You help the game, nothing else. The PS team can keep on imagining they do it for the community as much as they like, it won't come more true. The truth is that they make the game they want. They don't listen to the community at all. I am not saying that this is wrong...creating a game can be fun itself and give one a satisfying feeling about having created something. It's their good right to make it as they want as they are the ones doing the work. But calling it work for the community is just plain ignorant. For the PS team the so called community is nothing else than second class testers that are exchangeable whenever needed.
And sorry for the misunderstanding, must have happened because the thread is about roleplaying, but doesn't really change anything on my points there...they are still valid.
I hardly see how expanding the game area, especially in adding and designing areas with potential roleplay use in mind, is a waste of time.
And this is what you obviously don't understand. This thread is about roleplaying not improving the game in general. The game has already a lot things that could be used for roleplaying but aren't. Adding more of such things might for sure be good for the game but doesn't help the current RP situation at all. Sure, let's add a new map to the game so that the 40 players online are scattered even more in Ylikaum. Nah, wait, even better...created some more monsters and place them all over the map so that there are enough monsters of every kind enabling all players at the same time to hit an ulbernaut. Or how about rejecting RP rules because they would be a PR disaster and drive off all the PLers from the server...that's how the team is going about RP. But I am repeating myself...you are right Lhaa...I am too patient.
And please let me address all those who rant about Sarras. Not too long ago Sarras was
talking like you all, so maybe take it as a chance for an lookout to your own future.
Sorry, Sarras, couldn't resist.So let me try to be a bit positive:
I really hope the game stay fun for all those keeping playing it. Furthermore I hope that the issues some of those see can be solved in a way that is acceptable for all. I already agreed with Illysia, at least if you can "look past my anger", that the best way to improve the situation is going out there and start some roleplay. I'm just too "tired" of all the crap going on in and around PS to do it myself anymore. So farewell to all those remaining..I really hope you find in PS what you are looking for.
