Get off the Roleplay Server

[bilbous]

Personally, one of the things that bothers me the most about PS is training spam. I think you ought to get no practice from futile actions such as healing wounds that do not exist. There has to be a better way than the way it is currently.

From a role play aspect I would think that Talad would object to the way people use his precious gift of glyphs. Of course they never wear out and are fairly routine to acquire so it is easy to take them for granted. Perhaps they ought to wear out like everything else. Talad may be a good but to me he is something of a bumbler (poor Laanx) so it would make sense that glyphs would be impermanent.

If it had been me seeing you I might have tried to say something ambiguously ic/ooc  but would not have expected you to change and left you to your foolishness after a bit.

[Suno_Regin]

I actually make it a habit not to roleplay while I powerlevel, simply because the process for powerleveling is very bland. It's like when people stand still and camp the same mob spawn for hours on end and somehow roleplay the entire thing out. I simply can't do that. Maybe this is where the disconnect is, but I did make it clear that I was OOC while I was training, simply because I don't really like going through "apprentice phases" in my characters (I don't want my old character to still be training himself in magic ICly when he's acquired this knowledge during his youth, for example). There are some things that I can roleplay depending on the character, but...

1. I didn't know anyone used the magic shop for roleplay in this new generation

2. I was "there first" and at low levels it's pretty quick leveling to keep going and asking for more training, therefore the roleplay didn't have to formulate itself inside of the main building

3. It's the roleplay server, but I don't have to be IC 100% of the time if I feel the situation doesn't match my character, and I use brackets to represent this

4. It seemed like a rather personal conversation that they were having in front of both Levrus and myself

[verden]

Yes, I have always thought of the training as being symbolically representative of the time training, but not a literal simulation of it. And at the lower levels it is impractical to run around a lot. But sometime between maybe 10-20 I usually end up wanting to look at something else other than the inside of the magic shop.

And actually if we extend the concept that quests are OOC, since they have never been recommended to incorporate into roleplay, it would follow that training is OOC as well. Of course, the concept of getting something from or bringing something to an NPC is often brought up in RP... so there is this gray area.

[Suno_Regin]

Yes, I have always thought of the training as being symbolically representative of the time training, but not a literal simulation of it. And at the lower levels it is impractical to run around a lot. But sometime between maybe 10-20 I usually end up wanting to look at something else other than the inside of the magic shop.

And actually if we extend the concept that quests are OOC, since they have never been recommended to incorporate into roleplay, it would follow that training is OOC as well. Of course, the concept of getting something from or bringing something to an NPC is often brought up in RP... so there is this gray area.

Depends on the individuality of the quest. If you specifically are asked to do something that no one else "should be", then it should -never- be brought up in roleplay. Yes, when I'm questing, I also try to stay mostly OOC. If the quest is something as simple as "Harnquist needs an apple", then he's probably asked many people to feed him in the past, as he's trying to run a business and not take too many breaks, so you can probably roleplay that you've done it when someone else has too.

[verden]

Currently, I would only consider quest factions to be somewhat individual. Such as the two ways to get winch access. I've stuck with the no roleplaying quests always, except when speaking to someone who is trying to find quest information... then it becomes practical to RP. Thats just IMHO.

[Sen]

Right next to Levrus is not the best place to train in my opinion. I personally would also say somewhere outside (not because it's outside, but because one doesn't see the "magic spamming") seems to be better for me, too. But at least somewhere in the house where it's more convincing than right next to Levrus, who possibly wants to talk to other customers in peace - for example upstairs that looks like a small library.

Not only because of rp, also because magic is still making some players lag to unplayability of the game.
That saying get off the rp server was rude is pretty much out of question[sp?], so will I not commenting it further.

Sen

[weltall]

if you lag you'll lag on a radius of 100mt so the argument doesn't really stand

[Illysia]

Most of the people quick to say something like this are not all that "great" at RPing, they are just being pains. Also, I have noticed a trend towards having RPs that should be more private all out in the open. I know the world is pretty empty most of the time but still...

I can see the repetition of spells to an extent as practice makes perfect but it probably does get out of hand after awhile. If you RP trying to train it will make it take longer but I can easily see how to RP it around others. Maybe not each and every time yo cast the spell, but periodically as you are training. Maybe do it by time passed instead of by clicks.

My biggest problem is that people casting next to me makes my graphics go all funky but aside from that I just ignore it most of the time.

[Rigwyn]

I've never really been bothered by people spamming spells to train.. to me its just somebody practicing .. in their case, they are practicing near their trainer. That does not sound all that unreasonable. Actually, it makes sense.

Not knowing what transpired, I would say as long as the training is not disruptive and does not break the realism it should be fine.
Using that flame-on spell or defensive wind inside the shop  (especially if your right on top of Lervus and two other characters) would look silly as it would cause poor levrus' papers to blow about and his home and eyebrows to burn to cinders xD. Come on folks .. the old geezer is already mad as a hatter...

But it should be fine just outside the door.

I agree about mixing rp and leveling .. thats just silly..

player2 spots player1 and shouts "Beware!"
player1: Hi there. Beware of what ?
player2 remains still with a sword in each hand. He stares into the distance
player1: So eh .. whats up with the stance? Battling wind today?
player2: I'm waiting
player1: for what ?
player2: Im waiting for the briggand to appear and attack us!
player1: Huh. Your not making any sense?

* Briggand spawns *
* player2  immediately one-shots the briggand *

player2: Arg .. Another briggand tried to attack me! did you see that?
player2: I'm gonna need bigger pockets to hold all these pies, potions  and swords!

player1: [ Get off the RP server you noob ! ]

[Dannae]

Thought I'd throw in another opinion 

I like to attempt to handle problems in character as a first choice.

In this situation, if the magic being practiced bothered me, I would have no problem going to the character and simply request that they go elsewhere to practice or refrain from it temporarily.
My char. would be nice about it, but for some other not so nice characters, they might take their rage out IC rather than in a nasty tell. Who knows, resolving the situation in character might even lead to unexpected fun.

[Sarras Volcae]

i have a feeling these players brought it up OOCly because they're the godmodish sort who like to have planned uninterfereable (i know it's not a word) roleplays. they're the kind who have "private" roleplays in front of lady peckerly. frankly, they piss me off. those players are selfish and need to find another game if they wish to be buttfaces. lol

[Suno_Regin]

Get used to it Suno, nobody remembers oldbies anymore; oldbies are now the noobs that used to piss you off back then. XD
At least that's what they call themselves.

Admittedly, it's pretty annoying when you're RPing and somebody is spamming magic right next to you, but if you see that beforehand it makes you a fool to stand next to that player.
I used to train above Levrus, where Sen proposed, just put my character facing one of the books and spammed the hell of out of her magic spells there.
That worked for me, and I had sound turned off so as long as I couldn't see the spamming it was no bother at all when others did that.

Btw, you haven't been in our forums for a long time, I missed Roboki for a while. :p
Feel free to give them some life when you have to rant, I love rants.


Oh... and go to EZPC you nub.

Just guessing who this is, I'll be sure to drop by.

[bloodedIrishman]

I have absolutely nooooo idea who Pepito is. 

[Phage]

Get used to it Suno

Suno, you are a noob: Off that RP Server with you, let truthful RPers have their chess tournaments!

Pepito, you are the most big time noob anyway!>=(

[Sen]

* Sen wants a cheese fondue

 (why does everyone talk about food the day I ate (almost) nothing?)