Get off the Roleplay Server

[Phage]

You prefer paella with calamares? (lol sorry, poor joke;))

[Perlam]

So I was told to get off the RP server because I was training Azure Way beside Levrus while two people later moved in and started roleplaying there. I'm actually happy to see people roleplaying outside of the cities, and having such an iron grip on roleplaying rules, but... I found that to be a little rude. Is it not accepted now to train your skills to match your roleplay?

next time say "SHAZAAM!" every five seconds, that'll show 'em  

(some people just think they own this place)

[Xoel]

So I was told to get off the RP server because I was training Azure Way beside Levrus while two people later moved in and started roleplaying there. I'm actually happy to see people roleplaying outside of the cities, and having such an iron grip on roleplaying rules, but... I found that to be a little rude. Is it not accepted now to train your skills to match your roleplay?

next time say "SHAZAAM!" every five seconds, that'll show 'em  

(some people just think they own this place)

tbh you should just gtfo the RP server.

[bloodedIrishman]

Woooooooo Xoel and Pepito 

[Xoel]

Just a prospect remember -.-

[ThomPhoenix]

Behave guys, nobody tells anybody to gtfo, only Neko has the license to say gtfo on these forums

[Rigwyn]

Just a prospect remember -.-

Ok, fixed.

[neko kyouran]

wow!  I do?

hmm


 

[Xoel]

Hey Pepito, you still haven't explained why you begged and pleaded to have your forum account deleted, then you just made more. Really, why?

[Xoel]

I don't appreciate men calling me handsome tbh

[sashia_mennar]

And actually if we extend the concept that quests are OOC, since they have never been recommended to incorporate into roleplay, it would follow that training is OOC as well. Of course, the concept of getting something from or bringing something to an NPC is often brought up in RP... so there is this gray area.

From my System log, Tue 03-Aug-2010

>Remember to be consistent to your character even when doing quests. The choices you make will have consequences in later content.

That's what the RP server kept telling me for months. I tried my best for more than half a year, but I must admit I gave it up by now, as well as the idea of doing quests in a honest way, without using OOC info, tips and riddle answers given by other players, spoilers and such. The only thing I'm still trying to avoid is doing those quests which my character would absolutely, most certainly, under any circumstances, never do, because I just cannot play a character I myself don't believe in, it makes the whole game pointless.

I suppose the whole 'quests are OOC' standpoint has one simple reason behind it: goodies. I maybe would have called the players who do it that way, greedy or poor RPers if not for the game design making some quests unavoidable for any other characters but those of the pure storyteller type. No Winch, no training. No glyphs, no magic. No crafting books, no craft. Some things can be bought for a reasonable price, some cannot and one can't buy training access into the Winch at all.

Magic and combat training is absolutely un-roleplayable due to the insanely huge amount of identical actions that need to be performed in order to gain any decent level in anything. Unless someone is a bot, they simply cannot perform any corresponding, or even proportional, amount of identical RP actions. The only way to train magic and combat is to abuse the same buttons repeatedly for a very long time, thinking about what you are doing as little as possible, or else it can drive you crazy. RP cannot be abused this way without it turning into yet another kind of flood, one also cannot RP without thinking about it somewhat.

[Sluuph]

Hear her! Hear her! 

I despise "me too" posts, but Sashia has said what I've been thinking (four months in my case) so well that I must break my own rule. I tried to complete some quests "in character" and found the results and responses were exactly backward from what made sense ("the Gemming" being the example that comes to mind).

[Sangwa]

Haha. Suno, you're around for a while. You should know there are idiots everywhere.

You've done your part, but you should be complaining to the ones meant to "help promote this concept":

it's the players responsibility to create the community and promote RP.  its the dev's job to create the engine that allows the player base to create the community.  the GM team exists to help promote this concept.  if there are acts going on in game as  described in this thread, then its the responsibility of the player base to notify the correct personnel of these acts.  

if the player base sees these acts go on in game, and does not report them, then they have only themselves to blame for the way the game's community evolves.

The developers sure did create the spammy training and the have-to-be-ignored-in-roleplay quests and you're just promoting roleplay as that system allows. The GM's should favour you and try to mend your hurt feelings.

EDIT: Less words, so not to waste so much of your time.

[novacadian]

The developers sure did create the spammy training and the have-to-be-ignored-in-roleplay quests and you're just promoting roleplay as that system allows. The GM's should favour you and try to mend your hurt feelings.

It seems to me this subject is a two way street.

Most, what others may see as my character grinding, is done at the moment with Rogues. In RP terms my character has contracts to supply the Den and Stonehead with wine. She does her business out of Oja and tries to at least move from Rogue to Rogue and not stand there waiting for them to respawn. The RP logic is that she is not a Rogue/Bandit herself and so must continually prove herself in the eyes of Kistol. Other Rogues are probably trying to push in on her business or are trying to rob her product. This could be played out smoother on a table rpg with a GM and it may seem a stretch to some on PS; yet it gives me, the player, an RP reason for the training; as the wine is delivered via RP in the end.

My character has only done a few quests when asked to do so with her newly joined Guild. They have been mostly related to quests surrounding Talad which also seems in RP terms; as the guild is the Brotherhood of Talad.

Perhaps it is the players who are drawing one sided lines here. Just because a quest is available does not mean that it needs be done. Just because mounts are available in the winch does not mean that the character has to have one; unless it is achieved through RP terms.

It just seems to me the finger pointing on the thread is a little one way. Just coming across a daughter of dox racking in the sewers seemed to reinforce that feeling.

- Nova

[Edit - spelling]

[Sangwa]

I wasn't pointing fingers, I was stating things. I'm not sad with how the game works.

Perhaps it is the players who are drawing one sided lines here. Just because a quest is available does not mean that it needs be done. Just because mounts are available in the winch does not mean that the character has to have one; unless it is achieved through RP terms.

Totally right. However the people that chose to do these quests will end up helping a dude 10000 times with his poem, etc. It's incoherent, hence why I mentioned it couldn't be included in your roleplay. But that's not a problem either. These quests allow people to explore Yliakum and stuff, they are certainly better than nothing.

And I see little wrong with grinding. If you want a fighter character, you should have to fight with it, makes sense. If it spams other people, it's just not the players fault.