Idea to stop mining bots.

[Vakachehk]

This also will effect, harvesting, fishing, mining, etc.

I will use mining as a example:
You mine iron at level 20 mining, while in the iron mine area there are numbers between 1-10 7 are success and 3 are not successful (for example)
When you mine it is 12 seconds (something like that) of your character to mine for you to find out if it is successful of not in getting ore.

My way:
At level 20 mining, your mining Iron. You get given a number between 10-100 lets say you get 50, 50 seconds of mining till you get some ore. There is no unsuccessful's and it means people don't have to occupy there character while they are mining. I don't know if this could help to stop boting but it is a way to, I do guess they will try going for 100seconds so... If a GM thinks this person is boting they can make it so that the next mining time they automatically get out of the timezone (random number between 100-???) GMs will be told to send a /tell before doing this to stop annoyances. then the GM will see if it tries to mine again after the 100seconds. Then this is far better for all of us and means a fair play!

Rather complicated, but what do you think?

[weltall]

if you make always success and change the time required you are only making the bot more lucrative. coding such bot under such a system requires 10 minutes at best and it gives better results.

[Vakachehk]

it won't necessarily be 10-100seconds its just taking away the unsuccessful's, what is the point in me knowing I am unsuccessful, IRL I don't know that I'd just mine till either I am tired or get something. It would be far harder to bot, doing this as the normal time would be between 10-100 then GM changes it to 110 or even 1,000 and waits for a /dig iron sign.

Its complicated but I think it needs looking into. When I first started playing PS I clicked mining and went off thinking It'll dig till I get something, then I came back and was like "hmmmmm?" took me awhile for me to realise it was only like 12 seconds.

Remember that for levl 1 mining it might be 20-900, level 10 mining 10-600 level 20 mining 10-300 ect. then max would be like... 10-100 or something. But that is not up to me to decide it would be the devs.

[RlyDontKnow]

it really won't help against bots.
they just do it event based, so as soon as you get the message about success, you 1) move a bit away if you were successful or 2) continue digging if you weren't
so a random time won't help against the automation at all

[Trikitiger]

it really won't help against bots.
they just do it event based, so as soon as you get the message about success, you 1) move a bit away if you were successful or 2) continue digging if you weren't
so a random time won't help against the automation at all

Wouldn't taking away some stamina (like if you were running) help against bots? After when your stamina hits zero, you can't really do anything anyways. So if a bot is mining until their stamina gets to zero, and still tries to mine, you can spot the bot. Also, if you add in the rule of running where more weight makes you lose stamina faster, the bot won't be able to change the wait and mining times in order to continue going unattended... Just a thought.

[verden]

It won't help. They will just set a longer delay before the bot fires again.

[weltall]

you can code a bot able to understand such things and even an human will try to dig when the stamina is off

[steuben]

bah just have a captcha appear every 3 seconds. when doing anything,.

[RlyDontKnow]

bah just have a captcha appear every 3 seconds. when doing anything,.

I'm sure botters will like it! no more stupid players getting into their way xD

[weltall]

i hate captcha. useless absurd thing just useful to block real person from doing things

[Vakachehk]

hmmm ok so it may not help to stop bots.
I did also mention the idea about removing Unsuccessful's, I see no point in seeing that you are unsuccessful I mean in real life, I wouldn't stop every 12 seconds to see whether I was successful or not, I would go till I got something or got tired. Now what does everyone think?

[khoridor]

hmmm ok so it may not help to stop bots.
I did also mention the idea about removing Unsuccessful's, I see no point in se that you are unsuccessful I mean in real life, I wouldn't stop every 12 seconds to see whether I was successful or not, I would go till I got something or got tired. Now what does everyone think?

I would agree on that one.
If it won't fight bots, at least it won't make it easier for them either.

[weltall]

hmmm ok so it may not help to stop bots.
I did also mention the idea about removing Unsuccessful's, I see no point in se that you are unsuccessful I mean in real life, I wouldn't stop every 12 seconds to see whether I was successful or not, I would go till I got something or got tired. Now what does everyone think?

I would agree on that one.
If it won't fight bots, at least it won't make it easier for them either.

more likely remove a big heap of usefulness of a bot as you remove the boring insuccess and automine till you get one or get tired

[Geoni]

You can try and prevent the bots but good luck preventing the many mules that most powerlevelers had or did have. They'll try and make a crappy IC excuse to the GM if they threaten to delete them too.

[Vakachehk]

Nothing wrong with a miner as a character, saves Vakachehk doing it, I think it is better to have someone with a mining alt than to max out mining on some warrior character they have...

Why on earth would I bot if I never got unsuccessful's? I can't even think about how to code a bot but if I could I'd honestly do it just to give my hand a rest.