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novacadian

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Making Marriages More Official
« on: October 13, 2010, 04:38:20 am »
As it is right now someone can get married with the same level of RP as inviting someone to your Group.

As it is right now someone can get divorced with the same level of RP as disbanding a Group.

My wish is that the marriage game mechanics can be used for two people to be married. However it would not be official; that is appearing in one's desc and having any name change; until one went to the court house or some other official location and had the marriage registered.

To become divorced one would have to return to that same official place(s) and have the divorce made official.

Nicer still would be to have the records of such marriages and divorces accessible to characters to research.

You meet a Keeper and just to be sure you go to the Marriage Registry Office to see if he already has a better half.... or check if he has been divorced in case he is holding back on you.

That's only one example of its possible uses.  :innocent:

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[ Edit - Researching the marriage records could just be RPed for now providing that it would only be in the characters' desc if it was officially registered. ]
« Last Edit: October 13, 2010, 04:52:49 am by novacadian »

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Re: Making Marriages More Official
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2010, 04:58:07 am »
Great observation, the mechanics are not what makes RP.


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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2010, 05:34:24 am »
Great observation, the mechanics are not what makes RP.

My point was meant more that the present marriage mechanics potentially confuses RP in its present form. By confusion it is meant that it causes OOC chatter to work it out when my wish would instead nail the RP down. One would not see the marriage in the characters' desc unless it was an officially registered marriage that anyone could then RP going to the Marriage Registry to look it up.

As it is now one looks at the characters' desc yet have no way of knowing if it is IC or OOC. My wish is to clarify that to make better and less confusing RP.

One does not look at a character's health and wonder if it is IC or OOC to know that they don't look so well. One does not watch such a healing and wonder if that knowledge is IC or OOC as the visual mechanics of that healing are obvious IC. So no, Geomi, this is not a comment that mechanics are not what makes RP. It is a wish to avoid the chance of game mechanics making potentially bad OOC RP knowledge.

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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2010, 05:42:44 am »
Two things I'll just say really quickly:

  • Marriage is not something that can be seen, it is something that is acknowledged through characters speaking to eachother, that is unless your character is wearing a sign that says "I am married to Lilura Sheglik!" (that's just an example, we're divorced tbh)
  • RP knowledge is not OOC.

I really have no idea what you were talking about in this sentence:

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One would not see the marriage in the characters' desc unless it was an officially registered marriage that anyone could then RP going to the Marriage Registry to look it up.

It strikes me as: "Does Hydlaa have one of those? ::|"


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Re: Making Marriages More Official
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2010, 05:46:26 am »
Yeah, Geoni.

I run it so I know who's single. You know, to get my groove on.

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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2010, 05:51:47 am »
It strikes me as: "Does Hydlaa have one of those? ::|"

That is what my wish is implying; to have a Marriage Registry. Then when you saw in a character's desc that they are married to so and so you would know that your character could RP going to the Marriage Registry to enquire is so and so married and if so to whom? Then the OOC info which the desc is now supplying could be made IC through a small step in ones RP.

If the player wanted a marriage to remain OOC then they could use the marriage mechanics and be technically married yet not officially recognized until they register the event at the Marriage Registry.

There seems little point in declaring a marriage in the character's desc if it is not official in any way. They could just RP that they were married and place it themselves in their respective descs.

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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2010, 10:38:10 am »
If there's a way to record it, there should be a way to tamper with it, in my humble opinion...

Not everyone wants people to know these things IC ;D
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Re: Making Marriages More Official
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2010, 11:10:33 am »
I think this would be a great idea, at least for the actual marriage.  Going along with the game mechanics, I like the description line, as it keeps opportunistic males off my girls when they say married, but it has some drawbacks too.  Like massive OOC bleed with people assuming they can know something like that because it's written, when in reality they have no way of knowing it ICly.     

I do not however like the idea of having to divorce that way.  If two players decide they do not want to write together anymore, I don't think in a game setting, that they should have to go together to a registry to be freed of each other.  I don't think they should even have to be standing next to each other to do it.  I'm not sure if someone can type /divorce *name* or if you have to click the broken rings icon to do it, but I think sometimes, space is a good thing.  After all, this is a game, and forcing that level of realism on what is potentially a painful experience is not fun.  If I had had to RP out my last divorce in front of a registry, or other characters, I would not have continued playing the game. Simple as that. 



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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2010, 04:08:32 pm »
Perhaps a work around, for all, would be to introduce wedding rings. With the ring on the "Married to" appears in the character's desc; with it off it does not appear.

Although not stated, my thought was that only one of the married couple would have to go to the Marriage Registry to register or annul the marriage.

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[ Edit - P.S. That is how marriage works on my old mud. All the marriage handling code was in the ring object. Destruct the ring and you destruct the marriage. ]
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2010, 12:55:46 am »
That could be cool.  For upright citizens, they could wear the ring at all times, and it would be a symbol.  For nefarious types...  :devil: .... they could simply have the ring in their possession, but not wear it unless it was convenient. 
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Re: Making Marriages More Official
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Re: Making Marriages More Official
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2010, 12:25:03 am »
I think this idea is great!

It would be good to go to the courthouse and sign a form, it would probably have to work by using the quest system, and maybe adding some movies of a person signing a form and then it pops back to you and you run off.
Then they would need to add in a jeweler in which you go to and he offers to sell you different kinds of wedding rings. And the same thing happens as Novacadian said.
Divorcing may need some further thinking too.
You maybe roleplaying but you could still be OOC.