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Catlemur

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Evil RP
« on: November 06, 2010, 12:47:41 pm »
I want to make some money without getting punished by using evil RP.Can someone help me with that? :devil:

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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2010, 01:17:14 pm »
Be gray.
Find some good rp-ers, roleplay in a way that they can live with, (don't force anything on them) and make yourself interesting to play with.

With being gray I mean: don't be evil. You could easily play a character that's not set on destroying the world. Be someone that has a brilliant tongue, a politician, an entrepeneur, a juggler who tricks people into paying for his tricks. Be smart.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackAndGrayMorality?from=Main.BlackAndGreyMorality

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GreyAndGrayMorality
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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2010, 03:24:54 pm »
Playing a character under the intention of trying to have him/her be evil means that you are meta-gaming. Don't meta-game.


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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2010, 04:11:06 pm »
I say give your character motivations then have them achieve those ambitions or whatever by any means necessary rather than being cliche and saying the character is evil.

And Jekkar's articles are nice but I think it is also help to post the ones about what to avoid:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChaoticStupid
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StupidEvil

I would also suggest looking into this character--> Scorpius
It he is one of those kinds of characters. Highly motivated, no scruples or qualms if they get in the way, but not above giving the hero want he wants should it advance personal interests. Technically, he's not evil... he's severely driven. If you scroll up on that page and read his history it all makes sense though, it doesn't come out of a vacuum.

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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2010, 04:30:33 pm »
Anyways, on the subject of wanting to make tria but not being punished by any "evil" characters or for playing "evil" characters, you should just forget that there is such a thing as a player. Of course, your character may worry about getting sucked into illegal business or activity, but it depends on what happens as you RP. If your character does not want to get dirty tria, or bloody tria, then he/she will look for alternatives to obtaining tria.

Have your character look for certain jobs, perhaps there are simple jobs posted on the bulletin board, or people who are looking for a table cleaner, or perhaps a server. You have to remember that there are only a certain number of things that are illegal, but any character in Yliakum can see something as "evil" since that is something personally interpreted. Do what your character would do, not what you as the player wants him/her to do. This could mean that if your character has a history of illegal activity he/she might sink back down into it, and if not, he/she will do work accepted by the majority of society.


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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2010, 06:17:00 pm »
You won't be able to get rich from stealing, robbing or scheming. But it's still fun and able of being done. Obviously, you should have read the RP manual before speaking about RP, so I won't explain to you the basics, like some of these good fellows just did. Keep in mind as well how people usually engage in illegal activities: wearing disguises, doing it far from public places, etc.

If your character is a robber, try to jump the miners near the mines, people travelling the roads and the like. Don't expect it to be easy though, you can only talk the talk if you can walk the walk. Players shouldn't mind giving away tria, just as long as they get entertained for a good while.

If you're a trickster, be sure to have good tricks. If you do it well, not even the player will notice it.

If you're a thief... Well, you can't be a thief right now. Unless you come upon nice players who won't mind giving tria for 2 seconds of roleplayed action.
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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 09:19:38 pm »
Just don't rob any guildhouses, you'll get banned.
You maybe roleplaying but you could still be OOC.

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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 09:23:02 pm »
Just don't rob any guildhouses, you'll get banned.
Ive only been on the game for a month and even i know you really gotta let it die.  X-/

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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2010, 11:08:13 am »
Vakachehk were you around when the dark warmongers guildhouse was robbed?

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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2010, 11:26:04 am »
Leave Vakachehk alone. He's just being fun while giving great pointers, conquered by experience.

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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2010, 01:36:51 pm »
Just don't rob any guildhouses, you'll get banned.

Wouldn't see a reason for a ban if it was done in a fashion accepted by both parties and in an rp manner.
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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2010, 04:09:39 pm »

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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2010, 05:13:23 pm »

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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2010, 08:26:41 pm »
It's a poor scam, since the players were fooled and not the characters. The reason why people fell for it was because they thought Xiosia would be a GM's character. So, the players were fooled for their greed, and not the characters. No one in character would believe Xiosia to want a mass suicide.

There are better ways of fooling people. Asking for money to invest on a supposedly great business, faking to be hard pressed to pay a loan, etc. This way you fool the character instead of taking advantage of the player's greed towards GM rewards.
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Re: Evil RP
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2010, 02:15:36 am »
Wouldn't see a reason for a ban if it was done in a fashion accepted by both parties and in an rp manner.
Yep, Vaka simply abused a mechanical flaw, his so called RP was never accepted by the other party, hence, no acceptable play, thats not RP but meta-gaming.

If you want to  play a baddie, do it well, play well and thoughtfully, fair and benevolent. If people see you are playing that way, having put some good thought into your plot not the last to entertain others, they will want to play with you. They will be less suspicious about you only trying to make money in a cheap, poor and OOCish way. Its that easy, entertain people and they will reward you.

As for that Xiosia "hoax", who is whining? If your char believes he wants to sacrifice everything he has, he has to do that (and go through DR which however seems to have become a joke - Settings anyone?), even if it would be your char to whine at last. But if you as a player has to complain in the end, then heck, you didnt get the idea of roleplaying.

Playing a character under the intention of trying to have him/her be evil means that you are meta-gaming. Don't meta-game.
Uhum. Taking you by your word, if I wanted to create and play an evil char, thats meta-gaming? I had rebellous chars, goodwilled chars, naive chars or also insane chars, all of them from scratch intented to be like that furtheron. I never mixed knowledge of one to the other, and each of them I gave my best to keep them consistent - now you say thats meta-gaming? Dont you think your quote is pretty much BS? Or do you think a player is only legitimately allowed to play a char right according the player's personality is?
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