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RlyDontKnow

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2010, 03:37:54 pm »
sorry, but repeating the same old stuff over and over again in any place that possibly could lead somehow to that direction isn't arguing, it's trolling ;)
just read your posts lately, you're perfectly into an "I know best" person that has to show it everywhere possible.
Not that you'd be the frist one, but it's sad to see that someone that *can* be reasonable simply refuses to be.

I don't pretend you're mean, just that you do (imo intentionally) troll for quite a while now even though you know better (and most amusingly still insist you're not trolling even though you admit it in some way).
But honestly: AiwendilH is a lot better in derailing threads and arguing for arguing's sake, so don't try to steal his role. (nobody likes lame copies :P)

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2010, 03:47:28 pm »
I have the experience of the last 3 months and it's at the end of month 3 that the present is. So I know about the present. And that's what I'm saying. It does seem like something one should presume. Are you following me this far?
Oh..I am sure it only got better in those three months...

Maybe update the graphs then again...so that it's visible how much better PS got again and how much more player it attracts now.

And wondering a bit about Elady....not the first time it became clear that we both have completely different view about RP. So I'm not allowed to dislike her (and most GM's) preferred RP style because she says it's great?

And thx RlxDontKnow..I try my best. The only thing I can do for innocent people coming here...protecting them from playing the game. ;)

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2010, 05:15:03 pm »
Yes Aiwendil we do have completely different views on RP. I seem to be much more open and accepting of a wide variety of RP styles and efforts people to RP. We have never had a ban list of people not allowed in the Stonehead, unlike the RCD when you were in charge of it. Note that the whole thing with Masters of Move was a RP thing that has come an gone.  I have never said I will not participate in the events of anyone just because OMG the player had limited time to organize their event and committed the sin of actually planning some parts of their events via tells instead of meeting everyone face to face and "properly" RP the whole planning process. And I have never gotten all bent out of shape after an event I have put on just because the people attending the event didn't participate in the way I planned/wanted them to.

So yeah we do have differnt opinions about RP vive la difference

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2010, 06:26:49 pm »
@Rlydontknow:

Why wouldn't I clap my hands the same way to the same old tune? Nothing has changed around here... I don't say I know best, I'm just the last person saying "you all should have learned by now". I can't it help if, unlike some, I don't need a chorus behind me to make a point. I'm afraid my backup singers gave up on the team and the game already. ;) Which, by the way, is a shame and unnecessary as you can't call all of those people noobs that whine about not having mounts served up to them on a silver platter. And I'm not just referring to you Rly, I know you don't pretend that I am mean, but some do and my posts would be even longer if I bothered to call everyone out individually.

Reasonable you say? I did reasonable and there is even less to show for that as everything went backwards. The people that I was reasonable with have largely given up or left without a trace, and the game is in worse shape. Reasonable is for people that bother to pay attention long enough to get something out of it. There is too much plugging of ears and singing "lalala" for reasonable to be of any help. And as for trolling, I might make a stink from time to time but true trolling? Nah, that is for people that don't feel like bringing up the actual issues, they just feel like derailing and arguing the irrelevant points just to be funny. I personally am of the opinion it stings more if you stick with the relevant stuff. It bounces around in the back of people's minds longer. ;)

Also, on the knowing better thing. I may not know better on some topics, but I can tell you for a fact that when people listened to and worked with me and people with similar views, progress was made... And certainly made quicker than during the "lalala" sessions. It's not that you have to listen to everyone all the time, but too often there is a problem with shoving a circle peg in a square slot in the vain hope that through coincidence or sheer force of willpower, it will go through and heaven forbid someone tries to suggest using the circle slot. It's always been the case that when the ear plugging and singing start that stuff goes backwards, and there is proof in PS's usual cycle (which seems to be a quicker spiral down as of late- check volunteer numbers if nothing else, although aiwe's graph is pretty good... looking a bit bare there.. wait, it dipped in summer even? ???).



For what it is worth, Aiwe fell off the being nice wagon before I did, and to his credit still tried to keep me from falling as well. But, interacting with the current team unfortunately was the straw that broke the camel's back... well ok... It was Xoel that truly had me hanging by a thread to my last bit of niceness and then Talad finished off the rest (and others pitching in their little bit). It's not that I hate devs or that I don't have regard for any of the devs still around, but I'm not handing out accolades for struggling through self made problems. That's like giving a gold medal to the guy that lost the race, but at least kept trying even though he had put lead weights on his feet and ignore the people that told him to take them off...

And as for a lame copy... nah, I'm more subversive. :devil:

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2010, 06:54:45 pm »

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2010, 07:15:41 pm »
It just dawned on my how ironic it is that this thread is called I need help as Illysia is demonstrating in this very thread how she, in fact, does need help. She goes far beyond someone simply put off on a game. It has become something that deserves a paper by some Master's Student in Phycology. Instead of letting folks have whatever enjoyment they may find in PS she spews her venomous and bitter babble over and over and over and over again like an obsessed hag.

At least things are placed in a nice little pile in her profile for some student to sort through. They will find all the classic symptoms of madness to put a paper together. Delusions of Grandeur, feelings of persecution, the feeling that no one understands her and that only she knows what style of entertainment is good for all... you name it and it is in her pile of trepor dung.

My hat goes off to those in control around here to allow her to, hopefully, vent enough to gain some sanity in her life; so that this sad obsession may at last pass like some bad case of gas. If it were my decision she would have been site banned many volumes of posts ago.

Until either happens, my approach is to check out her first paragraph or so of a post to see the present state of her madness and then skip to the next post. In all honesty my feelings for her are great sorrow for her state of mind. No one is doing her any favour to demean herself further.

Hopefully she will find a place in her new anime world and her faithful unicorn will calm her and help her forget the horrible community she has left behind. We, then, can breath a sigh of relief and return to constructive discussions on any and all threads of this forum.

Would a poll for banning her be a fair approach for all; including her? If the majority of forum readers find her obsessive beating of a dead horse simply disruptive; would it not make sense to simply shut her down and let her find some other target to unleash her madness on?

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2010, 07:20:18 pm »
Go for it Nova, but you are in no position to comment on obsession as I think every other post from you is about me hun. ;)

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #67 on: November 16, 2010, 07:21:49 pm »
Go for it Nova, but you are in no position to comment on obsession as I think every other post from you is about me hun. ;)

Delusions of Grandeur?  ;D

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #68 on: November 16, 2010, 07:25:01 pm »
Nah, you just aren't worth getting worked up for. ;D

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #69 on: November 16, 2010, 07:25:42 pm »

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #70 on: November 16, 2010, 07:33:10 pm »
really weird there with the metaphors Neko. ::|

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #71 on: November 16, 2010, 07:57:20 pm »
oh, i was merely putting what you apparently feel the relationship between you and this game to be in simple verse.

that way it will save you typing a few thousand words every few hours.

as moderator, its my job to help forum users when i can after all.  ;-)

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #72 on: November 16, 2010, 07:59:42 pm »
Well maybe for Nova as I don't have that many words for him. My long posts are for people worth not being completely discounted. Sorry for not giving you more words Neko but there is simply nothing more to say. ;)

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #73 on: November 16, 2010, 08:38:59 pm »
Oh...we had a ban list of "people" in the Den? Depends on how you define people. Did we disallow certain players in it? Of course not! Did we try to RP and act out the consequences of murder attempts on the RCO staff by trying to keep some characters out of the Den? Ahm...I wouldn't feel like I am RPing if I don't do this. But obviously consequent RP is something not wanted in PS. That list of unwanted persons lasted for exactly two days...then GMs told us we are not allowed to do this. Only one of the 5 persons on that list, namely Semutara, did not try to kill one of the RCO staff in the past..but we had some other RP reasons to put her on the list...like trying to annoy her boyfriend a bit ;). And only one player had a problem with being on that list...so ran to the GMs about it. I really doubt Allola or Semutara would have complained....it's more likely they had complained for not being on the list.

And yes..it's true that i wasn't very keen on doing any more events with you involved after seeing how you organized them. At least I realized this way how you could say that organizing a picnic is not much work and can be done in half a day. Of course it isn't if you just rely on tells and OOC posts here in the forums to get people there. Great RP \o/.

And I better don't start about GM events...I know them from player and GM side...and know that they are not the right place for me to be. ;) Even more when the current GM leader was the opinion that it's fine to hand out invitations for GM events to a few, selected players.

And no idea why I explain you this all...I already know you will never get it and keep on thinking you are so tolerant and only because of this are such a great RPer. But you are in a good company there..seeing that the PS team wasn't even able to ever make rules to disallow godmodding.

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Re: I need help...
« Reply #74 on: November 16, 2010, 10:27:01 pm »
Neko- your you tubes are the BEST!

I have a new obsession...   :woot:

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