Suicide

[Phantomboy86]

I've always wondered something... I see a lot of suicides in game. Hell, its almost a biweekly occurence, so its made me think of this question.

Suicide is giving up on your drive to live, and having no will to live makes you die permanently... So shouldn't suicide do the same?

Lets assume that the characters know that having no will to live will end you forever. If they saw someone commit suicide and yet still pop back up, would they know it was pretty much just an attention stunt? Or do the people not know about the will thing?

Thoughts? Comments? Maybe an answer to this that i didnt see?

[Sangwa]

Gartheiz would totally call it an attention stunt. Morwen wouldn't though. I don't think you need to go by anyone on this one.

[Aramara Meibi]

i guess there are two factors, character's intent and player's intent. I can imagine many number of instances in which a character may choose self inflicted death and a quick trip to the DR in favor of their current circumstances. Heck, Dakkru and the DR give us this loophole and we work with it.

Now, if a character does decide to off themselves because they have lost the will to live, then yes, one should assume that that character is perma-DED and should never be seen in the realm of the living ever again. If they do show up, then yes, we as players can assume that it was all an attention stunt, but play our characters accordingly.

[Sangwa]

And playing our characters accordingly can mean two things: be happy they are back or think it was an attention stunt.

EDIT: Or not care at all.

[Gilrond]

IMO there should be a way to travel to DR without suicide. If there is a portal out, why can't be there a portal in? For example Rulayne can offer such magical service.

[Phantomboy86]

I don't count killing yourself to go to Dakkru's realm for training / priesthood as suicide, considering you have a very distinct purpose for it.

[Aramara Meibi]

IMO there should be a way to travel to DR without suicide. If there is a portal out, why can't be there a portal in? For example Rulayne can offer such magical service.

you've stumbled upon Ara's ultrapersonal secret quest.

[Lady Crankenstein]

i HATE getting lost in the dugeon maze below the Temple of Laax : choices are  1. spend hours in frustration   2. Suicide

 the endless running from BD to Hydlaa doing quest a giant waste of time: Choices 1. spend hours in frustration 2. Suicide

Can't afford to pay your way back from Kyros city : choices are    .. ah....  2. Suicide

Are ya getting the idea yet?


La Crank

[Gilrond]

Choice 3: get a map

[Sarras Volcae]

there are perma-death poisons. if someone's actually committing true suicide, they would be using one of those.

[Phantomboy86]

Remembah! Topic about suicide as an IC event, not all the whys of doing it for OOC!

[Aramara Meibi]

the instances I was speaking of may be more along the lines of, "Help! I'm being chased by a band of evildoers who want nothing save causing me terrible, terrible pain and suffering! what to do? oh! how's about committing harikari right here and save myself the trouble of going through all that pain!"

*Spluck* (sound of blade being plunged into one's own heart)

[BoevenF]

i HATE getting lost in the dugeon maze below the Temple of Laax : choices are  1. spend hours in frustration   2. Suicide
 [suicide blah blah]
Are ya getting the idea yet?

The idea I got is that your character is prone to suicide and without will to succeed in something. If that's the case, I suggest permadeath.

[Knightspark9]

the instances I was speaking of may be more along the lines of, "Help! I'm being chased by a band of evildoers who want nothing save causing me terrible, terrible pain and suffering! what to do? oh! how's about committing harikari right here and save myself the trouble of going through all that pain!"

*Spluck* (sound of blade being plunged into one's own heart)

I've seen some rps where this actually happens.

[Sangwa]

Some people roleplay their trips to the Death Realm like it was a walk in a park. However, it should be roleplayed as something very hard: in the future you shall be thrown into a random plaze of a maze with very distasteful surprises. Characters that say they go often to the DR for this and that should be seen as: 1) Liars, 2) Madmen, 3) Necromancers/Dark Way Followers/Dakkru fanatics.

As an OOC maneuver there is nothing wrong with going there and back again. However, taking Cranky's example, if you choose to /die out of a Laanx Dungeon, just don't RP getting out of it. If you choose to /die when people are going after you, don't expect those people to play with you again. It makes no sense for someone to choose to go through more pain than the one it would receive from being mugged... Unless, that person happens to value honour above comfort.