Hydlaa Trading Post

[Candy]

In addition to what Illy said, it might also be a good idea to pre-determine the victor of the fight if it's meant to move the story forward. As she said, roleplay isn't about "winning"; we all lose when the scene degrades into OOC bickering and nobody's having any fun.

[cdmoreland]

On the grinding versus straight RP thing. One form is as valid as the other since some RPers would be upset at always being at a disadvantage because they can't play long hours to grind to their characters to the proper level. The real issue is players treating RPing like a single player game that is to be "beaten."

I would suggest using the same methods as players who RP relationships between characters. Don't enter into that kind of RP with someone you don't already have some sort of understanding with. Making sure that you and the other player are on the same page before you go farther will help cut down greatly on causes for aggravation.

I can agree with you that those without the time to grind need a means to develop their characters, but maybe they need to do something other than combat. I can handle someone pretending to make potions or clothing, even armor and weapons (they can buy those things and show them off as their own).

Candy, I agree with you, but someone can't expect everyone to agree with their preplanned rp. One of the best parts is disrupting the plans of the evil ones.

[Illysia]

But should they be penalized for not having the time to grind by getting cut out of combat? Also, remember that even the evil character RPers should get to win at times too.

[cdmoreland]

But should they be penalized for not having the time to grind by getting cut out of combat? Also, remember that even the evil character RPers should get to win at times too.

I guess you weren't around when Kisoji and I were at odds. I never won in combat against him. But we were role-playing in many different situations. Yes, evil may triumph at times, but so does good. It's all in the fun of the game. By the same token, should I be penalized by someone that would have trouble killing a rat but pretends to be maxed in everything? This is a 3-D game and I find it a little odd that there are some that want to treat it like a text based rpg. There is lots of room for  the description of what is going on, but many still want others to know what their are thinking  rather than let someone interpret what their doing.

[Illysia]

By the same token, should I be penalized by someone that would have trouble killing a rat but pretends to be maxed in everything?

Of course not, but that is not a trouble with completely RPing the battle, that is a problem with someone wanting to come in and be the star of the incident. I blame single person games and standard RPGs for that expectation... a whole world full of people and yet, not a single useful thing happens until you come along, at least from your perspective... It often means many of the players coming into PS have a self centered view of how the game progresses.

This is why I say be more selective in who you do those kinds of RP with. Do them with people you know are reasonable.

This is a 3-D game and I find it a little odd that there are some that want to treat it like a text based rpg. There is lots of room for  the description of what is going on, but many still want others to know what their are thinking  rather than let someone interpret what their doing.

That is often just a matter of not thinking to emote from the perspective of the other character. I think it would be fixed by just telling the other person that there is no way for your character to know those things, but most of the time I don't see it as a large enough problem to bother.


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However, on a more on topic note, I am having decent success in east Hydlaa. People are stopping by and during European evening I can get a fair bit of RP going. Almost had too many conversations to follow. Let's dispel the myth that there aren't enough people going through there. There are enough people passing by; you just have to catch them. With a bit of patience and initiative, it will be fairly easy to turn that area into a central RP spot where people can for sure find RP... no matter the type of character.

side note: No, not everyone there was RPing with the food I was offering. Other bits of RP branched off easily from that scenario.

[Bonifarzia]

But should they be penalized for not having the time to grind by getting cut out of combat? Also, remember that even the evil character RPers should get to win at times too.

I guess you weren't around when Kisoji and I were at odds. I never won in combat against him. But we were role-playing [...]
should I be penalized by someone that would have trouble killing a rat but pretends to be maxed in everything?

Kisoji ... crazy character, excellent duelist, was always fun to spar with.
Mhm, I think RP fights etc are always about an agreement on both sides. If a weaker character "finds" a way to use Boni's size and weight to her own disadvantage, why should he or she not win a fight? It depends. Also, I like to use the mechanics for friendly sparring session, no matter whether the stats are balanced. That's why I keep many skills untrained and sword partially trained. The only limiting factor should be what both players find entertaining.

side note: No, not everyone there was RPing with the food I was offering. Other bits of RP branched off easily from that scenario.

Good idea to trade food, a pity I could not attend. Advice to new players: Even though too much food can kill you (no kidding here!), the proper amount can provide surprising healing effects, so it really is not as useless now as some people may think.

[Roled]

 

[Taya]

Whether or not someone can 'beat' me without the stats in an RP purely depends on how they RP. If their RP tells me they clearly took the time to learn the game, learn the settings and put effort into how they are interacting so it's involving people and not all one sided, I am more than happy to completely ignore stats and let them win (or lose, as the case might be).

I have often 'beaten' highly leveled characters from a no-level alt and never once had any complaints about it due to how I've gone about the RP. On the other hand, if I walked up and said "I stick a dagger in your back and instantly kill you because I am the best dagger fighter ever!!" I'd fully expect to be laughed out of the game, because that just doesn't cut it.

In short, if playing a no-level bad guy, give RP value. Make the experience of losing to you interesting and enjoyable and don't rush to beat 'the good guys.' Plus a quick /tell before you begin generally goes a really long way.

The balance between how much stats and skill levels should or shouldn't be involved in RP is always going to be a tricky one and both sides have strong points in their favour, but when it comes down to it, if both players can't enjoy themselves there is no real point in the RP anyway, so should work together.

I just try to go on 'experience' of the game rather than just levels. Levels are one way to show experience of the game (though not necessarily experience of RPing well). How someone goes about the RP can also show it, and to me that's of equal, if not more, value than the levels themselves.

[Candy]

Levels are one way to show experience of the game (though not necessarily experience of RPing well). How someone goes about the RP can also show it, and to me that's of equal, if not more, value than the levels themselves.

And keep in mind, our stats may or may not be wiped some day, but our skills in roleplay will hopefully only go up in our time on PS.

[Illysia]

Thanks to the players that stopped by last night. It was a lot of fun. Sarras stirred up controversy, a thief made off with an item, Danao now has a new carving project to work on due to a trade made at the stand, and lots of different people stopped by to look.

If you would like to run something in connection with the stands, say a theft or something to break up the normally scheduled commerce, let me know and we can work something out.

Remember though, it's an open area like any other, you don't have to just stand by a stall forever or wait to buy something then walk away. Even merchants are character with backstories, pet peeves, and things that will make them react in unexpected ways. Broaden out your RP.

[Shafaragorn]

So I myself am still pretty new around here and never could figure out the point of all those stalls in East Hydlaa that no one ever used. I mean, I pass by there all the time and would love it if I had reason to stop and hang out with other characters.

Then, just the other day someone had set up at one of the stalls and was selling various items. I stopped and had a wonderful time chatting as well as buying some books.

So, here's my vote for something to be set up there, however much it's worth. It would be nice to see all those empty stalls with some activity.

[Roled]

Shafaragorn, and all
on Saturday March 30th the East Hydlaa stalls will be in use again, 10 am to 2 pm Pacific Daylight time, for the magic convention and events.  All are invited regardless of skill level in stats.  Plenty of rp opportunities!

Please join in!