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Curious Observations- RP techniques and ideas
« on: September 11, 2013, 03:40:01 am »
The Thrill of the Hunt, started by bloodedIrishman (thank you) and participated in by dozens of folks, has concluded.  My congratulations to all who participated, in and out, through the ups and downs, missteps and brilliance, of these five days of rp.

Since RR was in a coma the whole time, until he and Vire were both saved last night through the extraordinary efforts of many, olbies, midbies, newbies, ftimers and ptimers, mains and alts; his player had a somewhat unique opportunity to observe the rp in the sanitarium tent. So I thought I would list a few curious observations.  These are offered as discussion starters, not as a 'how to' manual.

I'm gunna focus on the conversational rp.  I hope others might add their insights in the more conflict, action rp, and /or anything and everything else rp.

Three things occurred to me.
1) "Waiting is doing something." Sometimes, when a plot isn't moving forward and no big crisis is occurring, there is down time.  These may be great opportunities to flesh out and fill in your character's daily or habitual behaviors. You may discover insights about your character.  If you're reading a book say, because you're a herbalist in training, say, you might talk to others who are also waiting, by quoting something from your ig book- even one of your training manuals for example. "Huh, who knew oropheillia is not only a sedative, but can induce cleansing vomiting?" or something tastier...     ::|  Advantages- it may open up possible conversation, increase your character's knowledge of your interests, and increases other character's knowledge of settings... "Oh? Where does orophillia grow?"

2) Be observant. Bloodedirishman kept encouraging that the first day. Your character can perhaps help by leaving rp 'notes'- books and artifacts-  for others to see and inspect. Leave some opened ended clues that might lead to action. "Roled lies on the bed his clothes caked with drying blood, and his bandage seeping over the wound."  Then rpers coming into the scene might think, "oh! I bet the elfboy might appreciate cleaner clothes, or changes in his dressing on the wound, or , maybe, rinsing the forehead of sweat and dirt... which might lead to more rp discussion among the waiting people... based on your own character. "Hey get away from the femros" for example, Sacho said at one point when someone he didn't know approached Vire and tried to perhaps cast magick on her inert form.

3) my biggest take away? BE CURIOUS about the others who come in and out of the waiting situation. As rpers, we each want to forward our own uberobjectives, be true to our inner monologues and advance our motivations, of course. AND learning about others might just do that as well. ASK QUESTIONS, not only overt questions "Who are you?", "Why are you trying to choke that elf?" but motivation- based, subtle, or even silent inquiry. Part of  Sarren's backstory emerged slowly during the past four days in the tent, for example.  As a rper in the scene, you might ask yourself "Now why did that person just check under the bed," or "Why is that person sitting so silently at the side here? What relation does that character have with the injured people? Why are they here? Why do they stay here? What are they trying to learn or find out?  Why are they pacing?" 

Try to figure out the covert relationships if you can, for those little slivers of information ["Why does Aleeane faint at the sight of blood  :'( ?" "Why does Vire cuss so much  :@#\?" Why is that Dermorian putting his hand on the victim's forehead like that  :devil:?"  "Why is Roled drinking so much these days  :whistling: ?"] might lead you, in rps down the line, to deeper relationships, to conclusions, or insights, or maybe even save your life.  Be nosy! in a good, non godmodding way.

I guess that's my bigger take away- there are excellent opportunities to BUILD RELATIONSHIPS during these situations of waiting for the next big action to happen. 

The Curios Observational stance is perhaps a very useful tool to have in your rping repertoire.   :thumbup:

Thoughts? Additions? Insights? Pie?
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Re: Curious Observations- RP techniques and ideas
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2013, 04:30:21 am »
For this, you get pie!

I've found that trying something very different in RP can be an interesting experience. For example, Playing a character who cannot speak, see or who has some game changing limitation. Playing a character of a different race or gender than you are accustomed to. Playing a character that is bound to some particular restrictions. This forces you to think a little differently as opposed to mindlessly resorting to the things that you are more accustomed to.

Another thing is trying to let things evolve slowly. It can be terribly tempting if you have a secret lets say, to just blurt it out all at once. But if you resist and just drop tiny little hints here and there, someone else may catch on and guess it. I find that the latter works better. It gives others that discovery feeling. That, "Oh hey wait! NOW I know what's going on here!" kind of sensation.

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2013, 05:17:55 am »
I wish I was there.

Seems like a lot of RP hits a dead-end when one player doesn't seem interested in other players' characters. I've hit that wall several times on this game, usually with noobies... or the socially awkward.
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2013, 06:03:24 am »
I agree, the basic take away is to make a deliberate effort to stretch RP wise and specifically move out of your comfort zone so that you can grow and develop both your characters and skills in relaying your characters' stories. Goodness knows, that was the only excuse I had for RPing an assassin attempting to kill off Jacula. But it helps.

I might add, don't just RP a different race or gender, at some point make a character that is very different from your usual fare for the purpose of trying a different way of RPing your characters. You never know what you will learn from the experience. I did that recently in a different game and it is forcing me to think differently about character interactions and how I normally present my characters. However, in order to do it I had to work out/write down more about the character in advance than I normally do. That was how I put up a guard against the knee jerk reaction of RPing her in my comfort zone. I had to remind myself how her personality and body language was different from all my usual characters through the years.

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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2013, 07:40:32 am »
Yeah, good points, all.

I sometimes try to have Roled speak in nothing but questions to others. Then follow up questions. Of course RR is often called  :woot: RR the BB, Roled Rolak the Busy Body,  :woot: :woot: but hey, you end up knowing a lot about a lot of other characters you might not otherwise know ig   :-X

Now, conflict rprs? Weigh in with your suggestions, observations please? If you want to...  no godmodding not even in the forums!
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2013, 09:32:31 pm »
I have to say I agree with this stance. The funny thing is, what I like most about role play, and my all time favorite type, is being able to dig into a character's backstory and figure out what events lead them to behave the way they do. But the only way to get a hint is to have the character have a particular way it BEHAVES in the first place. People doing this and exploring those parts of their characters is always a good plan.

In fact, I may or may not be developing a role play that should lead to players having to deal with figuring out those very things about their own characters...  :whistling:

I also have to say that not all conflict has to be violent. Not all conflict has to be negative at the end, haven't you ever gotten into a heated argument with someone and then hammered out mutual issues and ended up better off than before? I love arguing ICly with other characters. It's fun. Dealing with Travosh's racism? Fun. It's a plot point. Running into Rigwyn and trying to hang onto your tria? Also fun. Even dealing with Illysia's (zandral? something) who had a generally abrasive and apathetic air? Leads to arguments. Which isn't bad. Because conflict generates conversation that goes above "so what did YOU train today?!" And huzzah, look what you have! More FUN! I think a lot of people look too negatively on abrasiveness, but what happens when there is no conflict in a book whatsoever, no matter the genre?

It's going to be boring. As hell. -.-

While it may make IC sense to keep "bloodier" role play in more obscure locations (which I tend to do anyway,) like alleyways and caves and in the wilds and such. It's also important to acknowledge that some people have different role play preferences, and that no one preference is "better" or "more mature" or "this is the right way and yours is the wrong way, nyah." That's just silliness, and a general refusal to try new things. It's important to remember one can always learn new things, and to never think one has reached the pinnacle of ultimate role play fortitude and can *haughty sniff* never learn anything from the "others." True wisdom is knowing that you don't always know everything, and some folks are better at certain things than others (and visa versa.)
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2013, 10:43:30 pm »
That was actually why Zandral was the way she was. She was meant to bring conflict while actually being perfectly harmless to ones character.

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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2013, 10:56:05 pm »
Conflict, as stated above does not mean violence, but resisttance.

An example:

Meg has a nagging crush on jack. She's very outgoing, assertive and direct. She comes from a long line of hunters and huntresses.

Jack is a very traditional, and proud man. He too has a crush on meg, but he has a certain idea about how a couple should meet and engage.


Meg persues jack openly and without inhibition.

Jack takes great offfense to this non traditional approach and calls her a tramp to fend her off while wishing that he could have persued her first. He's too proud to let her take the lead.

Meg continues to stalk and seduce the poor man like a huntress after its prey.

Jack becomes more abrasive and defiant - making it harder and harder for her to win him over.


This is conflict.  With the increased pressure and resistance, a climax is approached. In this example, all that is needed is a mutual crush and some conflicting traits.

How long with this go on for?

Where is the breaking point - where someone finally gives in?

Who will give in?

What will happen afterwards?


As someone who loves conflict rp, this pattern is what I go after. I don't particulary care for romance type stories, but I thought this would be a good example as it doesn't involve swords, theft and violence.

You *could* darken it, but that's not needed to make the point.



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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2013, 05:02:10 am »
I don't like dividing up RP into conflict, and conversational because they over lap too often. You can certainly have a conversation that has some conflict in it. In fact, most good ones do. Friends can disagree, and argue. They may know something that they might not agree with, and speak rather openly about it. That's when things get interesting. A good story is conflict, and the resolution of said conflict. And RP is a wonderful story telling medium. Now that doesn't mean that you can't still have a good relationship with someone. In fact, all stories have a down time in between them. I think RP works best when conversation and conflict merge into something beautiful. Like some sort of weird word butterfly.
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2013, 05:46:21 am »
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2013, 08:46:38 pm »
I prefer observing a complex scenario and experimenting with different paths. This is not only stimulating to the imagination but the intellect.

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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2013, 10:35:27 pm »
RR the BB, Roled Rolak the Busy Body, 

More like Roled Rolak the Big Butt.

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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2013, 10:42:01 pm »
"He likes big butts and he cannot lie..."

Oh wait, wrong thread.

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2013, 10:50:01 pm »
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