oooooo information control

[Aramara Meibi]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-p-hoffa/its-time-to-end-the-secre_b_4421089.html

[Volki]

That website is still a pile of poo poo.

[Gilrond]

If you want some change, take action. Contact your legislator: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/12/tpp-wont-wrap-year-fast-track-still-threat

And apparently USTR insists that TPP should remain secret because "public won't understand it".

[LigH]

Europe will lose health standards if it gets established with foul compromises. America will flood Europe with genetically "improved" and chemically "cleaned" food (e.g. chloride poultry) and can sue them for a lack of profits if they refuse to buy.

[bilbous]

Europe is not one of the parties to the Trans Pacific Partnership
Then again the plan for the globalists is One World Government as has always been the goal of the conquest minded.

They say that war is diplomacy by other means, capitalism is just the third way....

[LigH]

Sorry, my bad, I thought the EFTA was the topic ... but I believe that this kind of partnership will be similarly unequal.

[bilbous]

Is that that thing just signed between Canada and the EU?

[LigH]

Or is it called TTIP? Hey, how shall I know for sure, too much misinformation. And too many differences between german and english titles.

[bilbous]

hmm guess I'm talking about CETA
Somehow I don't think you are referring to the eastern fat tire association or perhaps the electronic funds transfer association. Must be european futnet association

Thats the ticket, yesss.

[LigH]

German: TAFTA
English: TFTA / TTIP

The most obvious hint that it won't be a gift to the people is the fact that it is negotiated in secrecy. If politicians don't want the people to know what they do, it might harm present laws up to the constitution. Compromises then may include changing these laws which would be violated by such economical contracts...

[Gilrond]

TPP is a different one, but not any better. Same nasty stuff in there, like corporate sovereignty, DMCA-like DRM protection idiocy, 70 years after death copyright craziness and various patent insanity.

[bilbous]

I'm just spit-balling here but if corporations get sovereignty and they are people does that mean real people get sovereignty as well? Welcome to the sovereign nation of Bilbous. We hope you will enjoy your visit.

[Aramara Meibi]

the soveriegn nation of aramara invades bilbous, finds its lands lacking in resources, and razes it to the ground.

[Rigwyn]

* Rigwyn steals the remaining pieces and dumps them into an abyss.

[bilbous]

* bilbous rises all phoenix-like from the abyss and unleashes nuclear hell-fire upon the invaders.