Je suis Charlie

[gonger]

It makes one wonder if a publication were to make a back biting joke about the holocaust how much indignation it would bring about? Yet to poke at one of the most sacred tenants of Islam (making a picture of Mohamad) brings cries of freedom of expression. The publishers of that rag seem to have had no respect for such a thing. They poked at the hornets' nest and were bitten. I am not Charlie!

Charlie Hebdo publishes satire. About everything they consider worth of being satirised. In other words, they are not an anti-Muslim / anti-Islam publication, but they target also Christians, the Pope, or politicians of every wing. Anything, anyone.
This is a link to a short video that might make this a bit more clear. It also shows and translates several other covers of Charlie Hebdo:
http://www.vox.com/2015/1/8/7515673/charlie-hebdo-cartoons-translated

After reading your posting I can only say:

JE SUIS
CHARLIE
plus que jamais
(more than ever)

[ecirtaeB]

Freedom of expression is fine and all, but I don't consider Charlie Hebdo's cartoons of Muhammad to be a "healthy" display of it. Some of those published are only disrespectful and offensive IMO. What good is there in using that freedom if it only mocks, provokes and hurts others. Why not use it responsibly in a positive manner instead.

Anyway whether you see it this way or not, I think we can all however agree on that the shootings themselves were just horrible and wrong.

[LigH]

I wish you all would understand the German language good enough to appreciate the statement of Oliver Kalkofe, another satirist. He never knew limits about the targets of his parodies either. He explains perfectly well why religion and belief can never be a reason for violence; yet it is the probably most abused reason. But fanatism is not religion.

One point he mentions in his statement: A strong god of a good religion will neither be afraid of people not believing, nor need to ask morons to kill non-believers to convince them — a good religion convinces without fear or force...

Interesting statement of Hisbollah chief Nasrallah:

Extremist religious groups following a "takfiri" ideology have offended the Prophet Mohammad more than the Western cartoons mocking him, Hezbollah chief Hasan Nasrallah said Friday.

The term "takfiri" was explained as "moslems mocking other moslems as non-believers"; this shall be a common nick used by Shiitic Hisbollah members to mock Sunnite jihadists... irony is entertaining.

[gonger]

They poked at the hornets' nest and were bitten.

They were not bitten, but savagely slaughtered. Does this really seem like a proportionate, adequate reaction to you?
If someone throws paint bombs, for example, we can talk about bitten. It is still wrong, but at least moderate, and does not kill anybody.

[Roled]

The critical difference, as every psychologist, philosopher, sociologist, ethicist and plain thinking person realizes, is that there is an absolute difference between thought and expressing thought in a spoken, sung, drawn, danced or written medium (in this case satire) and action. Thought in a free world must not be limited.  Action however requites physical effect on others, and is mediated by laws. Thought is not murder. Murder is an action, not a thought.

[Mouli]

I'm Charlie too,

but they are more source of indignation than CHARLIE, and most of those are just kept under silence just because it doesnt touch Occidental country...
- Last week in Pakistan 168 childrens killed in a school, most of them didnt even have 10 years old,
- Yesterday in Nigeria, a young girl (10 years old) has been used as Human bomb in a Market.
      http://www.france24.com/en/20150110-boko-haram-nigeria-maiduguri-girl-suicide/
- Boko Haram in Nigeria still using the 200 young ladies they kidnaped in a school (older has 16 years old only), as prostitutes for their mercenaries, For those ladies i remember of a indignation movement #bringbackourgirl, but now ppl forgot about those childrens, and the movement has never been that much important for those children than for the 5 olds CHARLIE's Drawers...
Are drama more important when it touchs Occidental country ?
are those 12 old provocator more important than all those childrens ?

this world can't really works if it goes with 2 differents speed...

As I said, I've  been a Charlie's Fan for more than 25 years, as french I read Charlie since my 16th years maybe even before and Im now over 40, but please keep in mind that they are a lot more problem in this world than CHARLIE, and all those movement should have been raised up before Charlie's attack

Have a good day, and maybe see you at the Charlie's march

[Donari Tyndale]

You will have been Charlie, insha'allah. I think they deserve what they got for insulting our prophet. Also, freedom of expression, right? 

[LigH]

  Troll alarm ... you may have the freedom to express your opinion, but not to force it upon others. Nothing justifies murder.

Still, Mouli is right, some events are made more important than others to us. And now that the police investigator commited suicide, conspiracy theorists are well fed.

[gonger]

You will have been Charlie, insha'allah. I think they deserve what they got for insulting our prophet.

I don't  remember hearing Allah say that he considers the Charlie Hebdo satire an insult of the prophet.

Also, freedom of expression, right? 

Well, yes, freedom of expression does include the freedom to show others your degree of intelligence.

[cdmoreland]

You will have been Charlie, insha'allah. I think they deserve what they got for insulting our prophet. Also, freedom of expression, right? 

And so the radical Islamists will get what they deserve when the US Military kicks some butt. Of couse, we need to wait for a President that will take care of business. And we should not rebuild after we destroy them. Look at the thanks we get/got after rebuilding Europe and Japan.

[bilbous]

But but the American political class are in bed with the Saudi royal family who are spreading all this nonsense around the Islamic community. Where will you find someone who will refuse to dance with the ones that brung them?

[cdmoreland]

The TEA Party is headed in the right direction if we can get enough of the Repulicrates out of the way.

[Mouli]

/me sights "They lost all the wars they have been involved in the last 40 years, they are responsibles for most of those terrorism around the world and keep thinking that war, is the best way to solve the problem... IMHO education is the way to go... but nevermind because In god they trust"

[LigH]

No kind of hate will cure another kind of hate.

Nothing generates more profit than war.
__

P.S.: "Restrain yourself, Jurgen."

[gonger]

Nothing generates more profit than war.

Profit for some only. The country as a whole will be pretty much ruined - again.