Food for Thought: Tavern Brawls

[Illysia]

I remember when people would start to duel in the middle of Kada's interrupting nearby RPs and breaking settings all in one shot. it's been my experience in RPing abroad that many games have the same problem and it gives the same impression. The impression is that tavern fights are crude to bad RP and that no one reputable would or should get caught up in one.

However, I've been thinking and I've revised my view. Obviously there is some appeal to having a fight break out in a bar, otherwise it wouldn't come up. In some cases, it may even be justified by settings. So what's the problem? It looks like the real issues is a lack of consideration on the part of the people RPing in and around the brawl.

To me, this means there is a way to bridge the gap and compromise. We can give everyone what they want. I present to you the Tavern Brawl Agreement!
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The Tavern Brawl Agreement

• Both brawlers and potential spectators will attempt to respect each other and RP side by side peaceful. Mutual respect should be shown for the other group's RP.
• Spectators will react ICly instead of trying to end the RP OOCly as long as the brawl stays within settings and does not attempt to  godmod anyone into unwillingly participate in the brawl.
• Brawlers will make an effort to keep the brawl within IC bounds. This means no prolonged fighting in taverns with strict anti fight rules or high security. No weapon fights in taverns where you can throw a punch but you can't carry a weapon openly on the street, and no killing in bars located in the middle of major cities.
• Brawlers will also take care to check OOCly with surrounding/nearby RPers to make sure that their fight won't completely destroy someone else's RP.
• Brawlers will have an IC reason for starting the fight, as in something other than I was OOCly bored.
• Everyone will respect the settings designated authorities, such as the guards, should they intervene.

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I think this covers most of the difficulties that arise with most tavern brawls and could let the game have it's cake and eat it to. Imagine if Brado's actually had the fist fights that it's said to have according to settings.

What do you think? Are there other concerns you have about it that I didn't address?

[Izzabella]

By settings brados should be filled with drunken brawls, barflys, and other colorful people. But as it stands, it's mostly empty. It's more sedate than Kada-El's and that's not right.

So, if you have a character given to carousing or at least starting things, please take time to provide the needed color at Brados. The settings will appreciate it if you do. And if you don't have such a character please consider making one.

Remember everybody, this is the tavern where it is ok to throw a punch.

From another post of yours.... I've always had this in the back of my mind and told other outlaws nah lets go drink at Brado's so we can start some trouble! 

[Illysia]

Good grief, three years ago. But yeah, Brados was supposed to be the shady tavern and that never really got off the ground. Even the den never seemed to pick up that environment. I suspect the playercount has just been too low. You need enough players player to where you have enough shady characters available at the same time.

Camp Banished is another such place, but being open PVP seemed to scare people off. That's a shame considering how often people used to ask for open PvP areas. Speaking of open PvP, did they move the plat mine again?

[MishkaL1138]

Atop a hill, now. Look around or ask in game, you lazy old hag. Miss me a nice tavern brawl, back when Mishka used to rip ears off. Got her stomach open with an axe wound after doing that to Stashka.

[Illysia]

Most of my characters don't brawl at all you Avacado you.

[Rigwyn]

Necromancy comes in many forms. Be careful what you summon. lol

[Illysia]

Riggy, at this point, even bad RP would be a step up from next to no RP. In other games, I've seen hives of widely agreed upon bad RP with more attempts at RPing going on. Besides, most RP crinkles can actually be ironed out with people willing to improve. Most of the people with no patience aren't likely to hang around the game as it is now.

Necromancy comes in many forms. Be careful what you summon. lol

...and you're just jealous because i'm better at it than you are. 

[Rigwyn]

at this point, even bad RP would be a step up from next to no RP

lol. Sounds familiar.

I'm no longer interested in playing and don't have the time either, but if I was, I would just start something and run with it. If you are really yearning to rebuild the community, then start up a game and advertise it outside of this forum - ie. Pinterest, Facebook, or some gaming sites. The game needs new blood and you won't find that in this web forum.

Perhaps advertise your game at the site you play on and see if there are any players who are tired of star trek or star wars (or whatever) and are interested in a change.

[Illysia]

You mean start up an RP?

[Rigwyn]

Yeah. I assume that's why you have started making all these posts about RP. Are you looking to start up a game or something?

[Illysia]

Oh, I'm just helping to revive the forum so that the people who do still try to make the game work stand a chance. The forum looking completely dead will run off a lot of new players. If anything I just do this out of nostalgia for the PS that once was. It started out small and turn into something pretty impressive. There is a chance it could do so again.

Also, I'm fighting my way to the top.
http://hydlaaplaza.com/PlaneShift/smf/index.php?action=stats

I just bumped Suno out of top 10 posters, and I'm about to tie Xillix's spot in topic starters... I will probably pass him by tomorrow.

[Rigwyn]

So i see.  The net net is, you've wasted far too much time here. 

[Illysia]

You can't talk, you've only been hanging around here 72 hours less than I have.

[Rigwyn]

It might actually be a bit longer if you add in my original forum account ("Rigwyn") which i deleted a number of years ago.  That one had quite a few posts and some time on it too.

[Illysia]

And factor in that I started using this forum before you, I've spent comparatively less time here overall.